On Samstag 22 Mai 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 05/22/2010 02:24 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > On Samstag 22 Mai 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> On 05/22/2010 01:46 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >>> On Samstag 22 Mai 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >>>> On 05/22/2010 12:34 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > >>>>> On Samstag 22 Mai 2010, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >>>>>> This installed PulseAudio and rebuilt all applications to drop OSS > >>>>>> support and use ALSA or Pulse instead. > >>>>> > >>>>> sure? > >>>> > >>>> Never mind, found the problem after googling a lot: > >>>> > >>>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-gnome/2010-January/023768.h > >>>> tm l > >>>> > >>>> PA does not work without ConsoleKit, yet the ebuild did not pull CK as > >>>> a dep :-/ Will file a bug about it. > >>>> > >>>> As for the results, it's pretty much as I expected: latency cannot > >>>> compete with OSS4's vmix. But it isn't worse than stand-alone > >>>> ALSA+dmix though, which is surprising. > >>>> > >>>> Another problem: Amarok 2 stopped working. That is, it loads OK, but > >>>> there's no sound at all when playing something with the Xine backend. > >>>> The Gstreamer backend works, but (as always) sound quality sucks (pops > >>>> and crackles). Any way to get Phonon-Xine to work with PA? I tried > >>>> to set "audio.driver:alsa" in ~/.xine/config, but to no avail; still > >>>> no sound. > >>> > >>> yeah, with that set it tries to use alsa, not PA. > >> > >> "audio.driver:pulse" also doesn't work :-/ > >> > >>> Why again are you wasting your time with PA? > >> > >> Because people claim ALSA+Pulse is better than OSS4. So I ought to > >> actually try it "with a correct setup, unlike the broken Ubuntu setup", > >> or else everyone will keep saying I don't know what I'm talking about. > > > > really? There are people claiming that? ok, everything is better than > > OSS4 - but PA? That crap is almost as bad as ESD. > > Well if I'm going to use ALSA I need something that gives me > per-application volume control since ALSA is too broken to even provide > that while the rest of the world moved on.
oh yeah, one other thing: http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Softvol ALSA CAN control the volume of every single app. You just choose to ignore it. Or you chose not to look for it. Either way, it is there. Without the inherent brokenness of OSS4
