On 11/30/21 17:32, William Hubbs wrote: > On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 12:59:18PM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue, 30 Nov 2021, James Cloos wrote: >>>>>>> "UM" == Ulrich Mueller <u...@gentoo.org> writes: >> UM> Also, why would one allocate UIDs in the 500..999 range (1000 is fine, >> UM> actually)? Gentoo always had UID_MIN=1000 and SYS_UID_MAX=999. >> >>> why do you thing gentoo is everyone's first or only dist on their >>> network? >>> or even on any given box? >> I was specifically asking about Gentoo infra there. >> >>> forcing existing boxen to change just because a new dist is added >>> is also unacceptable. >>> for me though, it would be enough if there is something i can add to >>> make.conf to ensure that the acct-user and acct-group builds avoid the >>> ranges i already use. >>> that may also work for others. >> UIDs in the range SYS_UID_MIN..SYS_UID_MAX (i.e. 101..999) were always >> used for dynamic allocation of system accounts. GLEP 81 hasn't really >> changed anything there, except that the ebuild will now suggest an ID to >> try first. > This is the part of this that I don't understand. If we aren't enforcing > an ID, why do we care which ID to try first? It seems to be an > unnecessary step since users can pick the IDs they want by putting > settings in make.conf. At risk of sounding pithy, it could maybe be summed up as: 'because "Gentoo is about choice" (but a sensible default doesn't hurt).' As you say "users _can_ pick the IDs they want," but if they don't happen to want to, we've tried to pick defaults (which are even shared by other distributions where possible) so that there's a greater than zero chance that things will "just work" when the time comes for them to interoperate. As a user, despite having initially installed way before this was a thing, it seems nice. The new SBC (rockpro64) we installed last year or so has a much more consistent user setup now than the laptop which is just random. > > William -A
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