> > > On 11 Nov 2021, at 18:40, Patrick McLean <chutz...@gentoo.org> wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 12:58:24 -0500 > "Wolfgang E. Sanyer" <wolfgangesan...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> El jue, 11 de nov. de 2021 12:56 p. m., Patrick McLean <chutz...@gentoo.org> >> escribió: >> >>> On Thu, 11 Nov 2021 17:05:45 +0100 >>> Michał Górny <mgo...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>>> I'd like to add some dates regarding 3.8 removal and 3.10 switch to >>>> the implementation timeline [1]. >>>> >>>> Unless I'm mistaken, CPython is following a yearly release cycle these >>>> days. I think it would make sense to also aim for a yearly cycle >>>> in Gentoo, i.e. roughly switch to the next minor version every year. >>>> >>>> Hence my proposal would be to: >>>> >>>> a. ASAP: send "please port your packages to py3.9" mail >>>> >>>> b. 2022-06-01: remove py3.8 target >>> >>> Could we please push this back, I would prefer some time in 2023 if >>> possible. >>> >> >> Is there a particular reason you wish to push it back, or is it purely >> personal preference? >> > Professional preference? My employer (which employs several Gentoo > developers, and funds a large amount of Gentoo work) needs a bit more > time to migrate all the internal stuff to 3.10. > >
I think this is fair but if you do need something for work, please say that so we don't need to guess / think it might be for your personal capacity. I also think it's probably worthwhile to offer upfront help if needed if you can. That said, I agree! I think we need to push it back a little bit to ease upgrades (see the recent thread) but also to help downstreams like Flatcar OS which are still migrating away from Python 3.8. I don't mind chipping in to help. [There is a separate issue with stabilising the Python 3.10 interpreter. I'd like this done as soon as it's ready (and it works fine here), but there's a problem with circular dependencies and python-any-r1 dragging it in on upgrades and causing issues with libxcrypt.] Best, sam
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