Hi Michał,

On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 14:53:33 +0200 Michał Górny wrote:

>Hello, everyone.
>
>TL;DR: I'd like to propose that stabilizations are done via blockers of
>security bugs instead of security bugs themselves, i.e. as any other
>stabilizations.
>
>
>Right now we're often performing security-related stabilizations via
>security bugs. This has a few problems, that are:
>
>1. Stabilization-related activity causes unnecessary mail to the widely
>subscribed security alias. That is, subscribed people get notified of
>package list changes, NATTkA results, every arch doing its work.
>However, in reality the security team only cares about stabilization
>being started, stalled or finished -- and for that, getting the usual
>'dependent bug added/closed' mail should be sufficient.
>
>2. NATTkA has no good way of distinguishing irrelevant security bugs
>from security bugs where something went wrong (and NATTkA doesn't use
>persistent state by design). The most important problem is that --
>unlike regular stablereqs -- security bugs aren't supposed to be closed
>after stabilization. It can't really distinguish a security bug 'left
>open' from a security bug with incorrect package list.
>
>3. Proxied maintainers without editbugs can't actually CC arches on
>security bugs since the bugs are assigned to security@.
>
>
>To resolve these problems going forward and establish consistent
>behavior in the future, I'd like to propose to disable 'package list'
>fields on security bugs and instead expect regular stabilization bugs
>to be used (and made block the security bugs) for stabilizations.
>While I understand that filing additional bugs might be cumbersome for
>some people, I don't think it's such a herculean effort to outweigh
>the problems solved.

Indeed, filing stablereq bugs is not really that big of a deal.

>In the end, consistency is a good thing and we've introduced a
>dedicated stabilization category to reduce the spread of stabilization
>bugs all around the place.
>
>WDYT?
>

I like this proposal and fully support it. Thanks for bringing it up.

Cheers
-- 
Lars Wendler
Gentoo package maintainer
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