On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 9:41 AM Mart Raudsepp <l...@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> Ühel kenal päeval, K, 18.03.2020 kell 16:43, kirjutas Mike Gilbert:
> > Seems good to me in principle, but I'm not sure it is something we
> > > should do until we haven't promoted this into a global USE flag.
> >
> > An alternative would be to add entries in package.use.
>
> Yeah, that'd be what it is now, just done in systemd profile, not most
> of the separate systemd profiles.
>
> > > With the disclaimer of not knowing anything about dbus[user-
> > > session] on
> > > a non-systemd system - maybe it's just time to make user-session
> > > unconditionally enabled on dbus (and then bluez) instead?
> > > All it seems to do (on a very quick look) is install some extra
> > > systemd
> > > files - can't they just be always installed (by always passing --
> > > enable-user-session) and call it a day?
> >
> > It looks like user-session has no effect if systemd is not in use.
> >
> > On systems running systemd, having the units installed automatically
> > enables the systemd user bus, and the only way to disable it is to
> > mask the units. Having the user bus enabled generally prevents
> > display
> > managers and startx from starting individual session buses, since
> > they
> > will use the user bus instead. That's probably fine, but I wanted to
> > note it.
>
> So how about we try to just always enable this instead in dbus and
> bluez? Anyone got any objections, provided the below can be handled?
>
> I peeked at bluez, and there USE=user-session exists to apply a patch
> to unbreak things when user-session is disabled. Unfortunately it seems
> to be needed there for non-systemd systems as well. I think we should
> be able to figure things out to work in all situations there, or make
> it be applied for USE=-systemd only (that's already the case there,
> just it is not applied for USE="systemd -user-session" right now).
I think we can apply
0001-Allow-using-obexd-without-systemd-in-the-user-session-r2.patch
unconditionally.

The patched unit should work just fine with systemd, provided the user
bus is available.

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