On Sun, 2018-09-23 at 18:46 -0400, Alec Warner wrote: > On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 4:42 PM Michał Górny <mgo...@gentoo.org> wrote: > > > Hi, everyone. > > > > I'd like to ask Gentoo repository owners to switch off Mercurial > > and remove all Mercurial repositories from repositories.xml. There are > > two reasons for that: > > > > 1. Portage does not support syncing from Mercurial repos, and needs to > > use external tools (e.g. layman) for that. > > > > 2. Mercurial is buggy and maintaining support for those repos is PITA. > > > > If you noticed that Gentoo repository mirrors did not update for 10 > > hours a few days ago -- Mercurial was the reason. It is very fragile, > > and if some server chokes during sync, it hangs the whole process until > > somebody (which means me) kills it. And it's not the first time it > > killed the whole system. > > > > Yes, I could add process timeouts. But small timeouts are going to > > break the occasional necessity of cloning big repos, and big timeouts > > are going to make little difference when Mercurial starts hanging again. > > > > So you are against timeouts altogether, or you just don't want to implement > them?
I'm against dumb timeouts. Good timeout = die if nothing happens for T. Bad timeout = die if process doesn't finish for T (yet it may still be doing something). > > > > > > If someone really cares about this horrible piece of software, I'd > > appreciate patches (preferably going upstream) to make it timeout sanely > > when something hangs. Otherwise, I'd like to announce discontinuation > > of Mercurial support soon. > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Michał Górny > > -- Best regards, Michał Górny
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