Il 07/02/2018 05:11, Duncan ha scritto:
AFAIK, (plain) etc-portage semantics are the same for both files -- that
is, /etc/portage/package.keywords and the newer package.accept_keywords
are identical.

The reason for the new name and deprecation of the old one was that
package.keywords also exists in the /profile/, where the semantics are
different, which created confusion for devs and others attempting to edit
the profile version as well as the more commonly user-edited (plain)
/etc/portage version.

(I add the parenthesized "(plain)" because there's also the deeper
/etc/portage/profile path, which takes profile changes and therefore the
profile format.  Actually, I suspect it was someone editing that using
the wrong format and then filing a bug when things didn't work as
expected that likely prompted the new name and deprecation of the old
one.)

Ok, thank you for the information, it's very interesting.
I may need to update my solver then :) (I thought that *.keywords always 
manipulated the KEYWORDS variable, while *.accept_keywords manipulated the 
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS).

I've a rather unusual portage config here:

* /etc/portage/profile/packages contains a -* entry, negating the entire
normal @system set.  Many normally @system packages I really need are
dependencies of something or other I already have in @world anyway, and
I've added @world entries where necessary to keep the few exceptions
installed.

* My USE starts with a -* entry as well, negating profile and package USE
defaults so I have direct control of all USE flag settings and don't have
to worry about USE flag changes on profile updates or tracking down why a
flag is changing when I didn't change anything, both previous problems I
had to deal with until I set that initial -*, so the only flags set are
the ones I deliberately chose, myself.

Does the -* also remove profile USE defaults for USE flags in 
PROFILE_ONLY_VARIABLES?
My understanding is that only files in a profile (either 
/etc/portage/make.profile or /etc/portage/profile) can configure these USE 
flags.

* My world file (/var/lib/portage/world) is empty.  I've categorized
everything into individual sets found in /etc/portage/sets, with those in
turn listed in the world_sets file (/var/lib/portage/world_sets).

Interesting, I didn't know about the /var/lib/portage/world_sets file (it 
escaped me somehow).
I currently include in all the packages listed in the /etc/portage/sets/* files.
It can be fixed easily.

* Overlays... (Less unusual, but still not mainline...) I run nearly all
the kde I have installed (frameworks/plasma/apps), as well as a few other
packages, from the live-git *-9999 packages found in the gentoo/kde
overlay (and others).  Package keywording/masking is adjusted
accordingly.  (Everything else is mainline ~amd64.)

I expect  one or more of these you won't have anticipated so they'll
present a challenge for your current script, but because it /is/ a rather
unusual setup, I'm not sure it's worth your trouble to bother with.

Out of all your points, only the overlays are not managed by our solver.
As your setup is unusual, apar from the overlay, it could be a good test case 
for our tool to check the configuration loading.
Right now in my tests, I deal with overlay by adding manually all the installed 
packages that is missing from the base portage tree...
If there is not too much packages to add (I guess 50 is still ok, 100 is a bit 
too much).

OTOH, if you want unusual corner-cases to test...

I'm from formal methods, focused on correction and completeness...
So yes, corner cases are important and interesting, and are useful to detect 
early bug or design errors.

So bother sending the results in (you're ready for it already), or you
want them, but wait until you've adjusted the script to deal with it, or
don't bother, you're not going to try supporting anything that unusual
anyway?

Send it in :).
If I have problems with it, I may not fix the bugs right away, but at least I 
would know about it.

Thanks,
Michael Lienhardt


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