On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 2:37 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. <wlt...@o-sinc.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 14:17:00 -0500 > Alec Warner <anta...@gentoo.org> wrote: > > > > Clearly if Gentoo could be successful if millions of people were > > killed; we would not choose to kill millions of people. > > Clearly if Gentoo could be successful if dozens of people were > > harassed; we would not choose to harass dozens of people? > > > > I think the advocacy is that people want a community where Gentoo can > > be successful without needing to harass anyone. A noble goal eh? > > If the cost of a successful Gentoo is people being harassed because it > > cannot sustain a safe community; perhaps Gentoo shouldn't exist > > The fact that you were the one who caused the problems for me in 08. > Who reported me to DevRel in 08 Alec? Are you proud of that some many > years later? Did that help the Foundation or Gentoo? I was gone from > 08-15 yet things did not improve and you are still here. > > That you ended up as a Trustee is ironic. Drive me out take my place > and do nothing. Which Gentoo never did get any official status with IRS. > No filings beyond the ones Daniel Robbins paid for out of his own > pocket.... When he created the Foundation and donated Gentoo to the > foundation. Least the work I did for the Foundation is visible and > stands to this very day. Same bank account I helped establish after > calling banks for 2 months solid post 911. Asking things like we have > an international foundation with trustees not in the US. Does not ring > any bells for money laundering or terrorism.... > > Perhaps people like you should not cause problems for and drive people > like me away. Then maybe Gentoo would have a real legal foundation, > budgets, weekly news letter paying for development, reimbursing > developers for travel, conferences, etc. Pretty much everything FreeBSD > has going on. You can see me referencing them any times in the -nfp > logs from when I was a Trustee. > > I think you make my point sir; not debase it. You did (and continue to do) many things, that are in fact valuable. However, you also contributed very negatively to the community. This isn't a simple maths problem where as long as one does enough good they can offset the bad. I'm fairly confident the community doesn't want such an environment (and have repeatedly rejected it in the past.) > Not to mention the lack of technical contributions. I can't find you > Alec where are your commits? Or other activity? > > wlt@ws /usr/portage > $ git shortlog -s -n --all | grep -i Thomson > 55 William L. Thomson Jr > wlt@ws /usr/portage > $ git shortlog -s -n --all | grep -i Alec > wlt@ws /usr/portage > $ git shortlog -s -n --all | grep -i Warner > > Keeping all this out of tree > https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/os-xtoo > > Much less other work on the Foundation. This is clear the people > responsible for killing and harming Gentoo. Many like you remain from > 2008. Still being just as destructive, masquerading as constructive. > While doing what? Technical or Foundation wise? > And yet still somehow people think what I say is valuable, even when I have not committed to the tree in years. Odd that. -A > > Show me the money :) > > -- > William L. Thomson Jr. >