On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 12:05:07 +0200 Michał Górny wrote:
> W dniu nie, 17.09.2017 o godzinie 12∶12 +0300, użytkownik Andrew
> Savchenko napisał:
> > On Sun, 17 Sep 2017 02:56:08 +0700 Vadim A. Misbakh-Soloviov wrote:
> > > Hi there!
> > >
> > > Every time I switch from mastering service on my work (Ubuntu-powered) to
> > > my
> > > own server farm (Gentoo powered) I'm going a bit frustrated: Ubuntu (with
> > > all
> > > my hate to many other things in it) has nice user-friendly way of
> > > managing
> > > services: you can freely call any of `service <servicename> action`
> > > irrelevant
> > > to which init-system is currently in use. Will it be systemd, or
> > > (whatever
> > > there is alternative there). `service` wrapper will detect it anyway and
> > > will
> > > do the proper things (forward it to either systemd or another service
> > > manager).
> > >
> > > I'd like to suggest to remove `service` widget from openrc and make it
> > > the
> > > part of (which package? baselayout?)? Here is a pseudocode of how I see
> > > it:
> > >
> > > ```
> > > servicename=${1}
> > > action=${2}
> > >
> > > if in_systemd; then
> > > systemctl "${action}" "${servicename}"
> > > else
> > > rc-service "${servicename}" "${action}"
> > > fi
> > > ```
> > >
> > > Well, actually, there may be some more logic (for example, instance units
> > > (`unit@instance` in `systemd` vs `unit.instance` in openrc), "enable"
> > > action
> > > (forward it to `rc-update add` for `openrc`, probably) and maybe some
> > > more.
> > > But anyway, the conception is something like that.
> > >
> > >
> > > What do you think about that?
> >
> > https://xkcd.com/927/
> >
> > We will create even more confusion for Gentoo users with one more
> > tool to do the same stuff.
> >
> > Of course you are free to implement some separate wrapper package,
> > but it must be completely optional, since some users will have no
> > use for it including myself.
> >
> > Really, unifying distributions is futile. We will have either the
> > same and only distribution (to rule them all) or an attempt will
> > fail. The same way you can try to unify emerge and apt tools via
> > some wrapper manager.
>
> Fun fact: systemd was created to unify distributions in one init system.
Exactly. This case is perfectly covered by https://xkcd.com/927/ :)Best regards, Andrew Savchenko
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