On 04/11/2017 05:22 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > When people make assumptions about others based on posts to a mailing > list etc. It seems they may have a limited view of the world and lack > of world experience. The more you travel, learn other cultures, etc. > You learn not to assume about others. Cultures alone can be very > different. You also learn respect is a VERY big thing. In the US in my > area and others. Lack of showing respect can result in violence. In > business lack of respect can really be costly just the same. In Asian > cultures, respect is HUGE.
[finding a place in block of text to break in with a relative context] Doesn't this argument go both ways? We have participants from a number of cultures on the mailing list, and what you feel insulted for I wouldn't even shrug about here in Norway. In certain other European countries (or northern Norway), you'd be considered prude for not having some expletives involved in the everyday discussion. And doesn't the extension of that argument mean that we should all try to consider the feedback from others in how we present ourselves? Given that most of our discussions within this project happens via email, and on IRC, but email would be the more dominant channel in terms of substantive discussions, shouldn't we make an effort to increase the signal to noise ratio and give it serious thought when multiple people state that a specific behavior is unwanted? I believe most of us want a more fruitful community within Gentoo, but I do not believe the way to go ahead to get it is running around complaining, adding to the negativity. If you really want change, try to contribute code through the established channels, try to contribute documentation patches, contributing with resourced bug reports, and say thank you to developers once in a while instead of expecting some sense of entitlement because others are contributing pro bono[i]. All I can say is, spending the amount of time reading the dominant mailing lists is time I could've spent on other aspects of Gentoo, and I'd much prefer the participants respecting the use of my time when posting to one of the lists that'd be expected I read to begin with. So if you know, and receive indication of, a misrepresentation of persona in such information channels -- might I suggest considering contributing through different channels and/or limiting the communication to objective contributions (such as patches)? Notes: [i] granted I should quantify that with saying that pro bono argument only goes so far, if picking up a responsibility it should be followed up or dropped, the voluntary basis is whether to pick up the ball or not -- Kristian Fiskerstrand OpenPGP keyblock reachable at hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net fpr:94CB AFDD 3034 5109 5618 35AA 0B7F 8B60 E3ED FAE3
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