On 17/06/16 06:17 PM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> On 17/06/16 05:22 PM, Michał Górny wrote:
>> On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 00:06:10 +0300
>> Andrew Savchenko <birc...@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 19:42:18 +0200 Michał Górny wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> Since this is a major issue involving a lot of packages, and it needs
>>>> to be fixed *quickly*, I'm forwarding the new check results to
>>>> gentoo-dev.
>>>>
>>>> If the below list contains your package, please fix it ASAP. I will
>>>> file bugs for the remaining packages then.
>>>>
>>>> Long story short, using := operator inside || () conditional blocks is
>>>> completely forbidden and triggers random misbehavior inside package
>>>> managers (Portage doesn't do exactly what you think it does).  
>>>
>>> Please explain in more details why this is forbidden. man 5 ebuild
>>> contains nothing about this, I can't find anything in PMS also. If
>>> package manager misbehaves this doesn't automatically imply that
>>> ebuilds are broken (and not PM).
>>
>> It was explained already. PMS doesn't permit it. It doesn't make *any*
>> sense, so the author didn't even bother explicitly saying it's
>> forbidden. Package manager can't not misbehave if something can't be
>> implemented.
>>
> 
> Where does PMS not permit it??
> 
> 8.2: [...]
> An any-of group, which consists of the string ||, followed by
> whitespace, followed by an open parenthesis, followed by whitespace,
> followed by zero or more of (a dependency item of any kind followed by
> whitespace), followed by a close parenthesis.
> 
> 
> "dependency item of any kind" would certainly include atoms with slot
> operators.
> 
> 
> There is also no caveat at all in 8.2.3 that excludes slot operators,
> and 8.2.6.3 also contains no caveat or exclusion of slot operators
> from any-of groups.
> 
> 
> Using slot operators within OR deps was intended when EAPI5 was
> introduced.  If Portage and other PMs don't handle it well or properly
> then they should be fixed, and perhaps the spec should be refined in
> EAPI7, but that doesn't mean banning it now.
> 
> 
> 


Now, one thing that *is* banned is the use of :[SLOT]/[Sub-Slot]
values in ebuilds, as per PMS s.8.2.6.3  -- I know there's plenty of
ebuilds that are doing that, including in virtuals.



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