On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Peter Stuge <pe...@stuge.se> wrote: > Anthony G. Basile wrote: >> On 02/22/15 12:08, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: >>> * Fun is lost for a long time. >> >> This is is extremely false. > > It's a very subjective matter. I don't doubt that Gentoo is fun for > some or many or even all developers. I also have no doubt that the > process of becoming a developer isn't fun for Nicolas. >
I can't imagine that his post will make the process of becoming a developer any more fun for him, if that is one of his goals. Communications/relations is definitely one of the things recruiters look at. If we move to a more review-based workflow those skills actually become even more important. I think we should be able to have frank discussion of issues/ideas/etc. However, when the sarcasm/passive-aggressive level starts rising to the point where somebody just asking for how they can help out gets an ultra-cynical reply suggesting that Gentoo isn't worth their time, then maybe the solution to some of our manpower problems is to block certain individuals from posting to the lists. Many of the statements in his post were outright false. Others suggest that nobody in the dev community cares about some of the problems we do have, which is far from the truth. The issues just aren't trivial to solve. A challenge here is that Gentoo means different things to different people. If there were only one binary distro out there then they'd struggle with the same kinds of divisions. What really brings us together is that we have some kind of problem/interest that is solved by the use of a source-based distro. If we were one of a hundred source-based distros we could be the distro for hardened servers, or for desktops, or for embedded. I think our divisions actually in some sense reflect our success - we're actually good at so many things that we're all over the map in terms of our goals/culture/etc. I think this is actually an exciting time to get involved with Gentoo. We're in the midst of a lot of change, which of course brings frustration for both those who want things to change faster and those who perhaps would prefer less change. However, this is a time where one person who is determined can make a big difference. If you try to make an improvement and find some kind of roadblocks being thrown in your path, speak up about it. In almost every case of this that was escalated to the Council in the last year, the Council has generally supported the person who wants to get into something over those who would prefer to keep them out. The only thing we generally ask is that everybody acts responsibly to prevent messes, and that you fix the messes you make and not just dump them on others. Bottom line is that in FOSS you get a lot further with a line of code than a line of email. -- Rich
