On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 10:57:32 +0200 Thomas Kahle <to...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> I was mentored on the QA issues and have come to 'this attitude' > myself. Take sci-mathematics/singular: Upstream is genuinely not > interested in supporting distriutions or their petty QA unless > you can prove them that there is a problem that massively hurts > them. Fixing compatibility with user specified LDFLAGS? They'll > laugh at you. Their attitude is a result of years and years of > struggling with too little manpower themselves. They can hardly > keep up with scientific developments. > > My personal attitude: It is just not worth the effort to rewrite > their build systems for the ~10 users out there. I have better > things to do with my time and I think that these packages can > live forever in the overlay and that is completely OK this way. Yeah, it behaves like a trade-off in manpower; the type of QA brought up here is an enhancement, where it would be nice if someone could make the *FLAGS, CC, LD, ... supported but definitely not a requirement. This is not a reason to keep it in an overlay (or block stabilization). > I think that's a different point. I've also met people who just > don't want to become developers because their "it's not worth my > time" boundary is on the other side of the quizzes. So one could > say yes, contributing to overlays is convenient enough to never > do quizzes. The arguments I have heard are not about bugzilla > workflow. They are: I don't get that much more from being a full > dev, so I don't bother taking the quizzes. Yes; becoming a full Gentoo Developer can help to go across certain restrictions, as well as can become more handy if you do work all over the place in the Portage tree. Other than that I think there is a lot you can get accomplished as an user; that is, if there is enough manpower to make those accomplishments of the users have an effect: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs > Here's a positive thing: There are many ways to contribute, even > without taking lenghty quizzes :) Indeed, here is a lengthy summary that is probably not complete: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Contributing_to_Gentoo -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D
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