On Thu, 20 Feb 2014 11:26:18 +0200 Samuli Suominen <ssuomi...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > On 20/02/14 10:47, Steev Klimaszewski wrote: > > On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 10:40 +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> On 20/02/14 09:44, Steev Klimaszewski wrote: > >>> On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 07:55 +0200, Samuli Suominen wrote: > >>>> On 20/02/14 00:23, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >>>>> Following up to today's QA meeting: The gtk3 USE flag is used by > >>>>> 27 packages, so I suggest making it a global flag: > >>>>> > >>>>> gtk3 - Add support for x11-libs/gtk+ (The GIMP Toolkit) version > >>>>> 3 > >>>>> > >>>>> Ulrich > >>>> that would suggest it's fine to use, and is anything but > >>>> temporary > >>>> > >>>> -1 from here > >>>> > >>> MATE desktop (which I hope to bring in to Portage soon) can be > >>> built against gtk+ 2 or gtk+ 3, and upstream supports doing both, > >>> so +1 from me. Just because gtk+ 3 is the latest, does not mean > >>> it's the greatest, and I really wish people would realize that > >>> newest != bestest. > >>> > >>> > >> Then you pick whatever is best supported for MATE, and ship it > >> using that. Later when they have completed their support for > >> GTK+-3, and it's the best supported, you ship that. It's not > >> rocket science. > >> > > OR, since I'm the maintainer, I decide that I'm willing to deal with > > both, instead of you telling me that I need to pick one or the > > other. Upstream says both are supported and viable, and I'm willing > > to deal with the headaches. Just because you're unwilling doesn't > > mean others aren't. kthx. > > > > > > Bye bye distribution level consistency :-( > > It's sad that few stubborn developers can do that. > > - Samuli > "'Ey! Have you heard about it. Gentoo doesn't provide X with support for Y, then what are their USE flags even for; what a shame, ..." If people want to support and use multiple things, let them do so. It is pretty much what Gentoo and its philosophy are about; which somewhat can be summarized as providing choices such that we fit the users' need, and not force our one true way upon them... Greetings from someone who runs GNOME 3 and MATE simultaneously; you can intentionally break it, but why would you? It takes away our happiness. On the other hand, there's the part where you want to break it for a reason, perhaps for your happiness; but then I'd like to hear why. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail address : tom...@gentoo.org GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D
