Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc 0.12 - netifrc/newnet mix-up

[William Hubbs]

On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 09:32:10PM +0400, Alexander V Vershilov wrote:
> On Dec 3, 2013 1:24 AM, "Ian Stakenvicius" <a...@gentoo.org> wrote:
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> > On 02/12/13 04:19 PM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
> > > On 12/02/2013 03:28 PM, William Hubbs wrote: [...]
> > >> Also, the other message in this thread is correct; the netifrc
> > >> use flag is temporary.
> > >
> > >> I originally planned to release openrc-0.12.x along with a
> > >> newsitem that instructed you to emerge the netifrc package if you
> > >> want the legacy network stack, but some users/devs felt that
> > >> Ishould go further to make sure netifrc remains installed on
> > >> their systems.
> > >
> > > As one of those devs, I feel now may be a good time to ask.... What
> > > are we doing about this?  In my opinion, anyone removing net
> > > support from the stage3's should be killed with fire.  That said, I
> > > don't care if it's netifrc or whatever as long as it is properly
> > > documented and actually usable.
> > >
> > > Thoughts on how we move forward?
> > >
> > > Thanks, Zero
> > >
> >
> > Well, part of this conversation needs to be, what is the default
> > networking stack that we want to have in gentoo?  IMO that should
> > remain netifrc but that's just my personal opinion.
> 
> I personally like netifrc default but there is no good way to use it as
> default we will need to keep use flag arbitrary long or add netifrc to
> @system but it will return us back to the problems of users who doesn't
> want to have netifrc on their systems. And with the rise of systems and NM
> the number of such users will grow. Anyway I'd like to see base system herd
> vote.

I would like to add a virtual/network-manager package to @system which
has the following rdepend settings:

RDEPEND=" || (
        net-misc/netifrc
        >=sys-apps/openrc-0.12[newnet]
        net-misc/badvpn
        net-misc/dhcpcd
        net-misc/netctl
        net-misc/NetworkManager
        net-misc/wicd )"

        Does anyone see an issue with setting it up this way?

        William

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