-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 08/21/2013 05:13 AM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 12:32:35 +0400 > Sergey Popov <pinkb...@gentoo.org> wrote: > >> 21.08.2013 12:13, Tom Wijsman пишет: >>> Recruiting shows to be a hard task; so, the suggestions I am doing >>> are assuming that that doesn't work out. In which case, I wonder >>> what "by some other ways" you would think of... >> >> Dropping some keywords to unstable on minor arches. > > If we grow (like you said below), then doing less seems like a decision > that we shouldn't take; it is rather about "doing it different" to use > our resources in a better way. Crowd sourcing users is an option here... > >> And about recruiting, it is the only way we can keep moving with >> getting distro, which makes bigger and bigger all the time. > > Yes, but apart from recruiting you can make the resources used better; > if the current way of using our resources isn't sufficient, we can > improve that as well. Improving both is going to make the difference. > >> I would have joined recruiters unless i knew how difficult job they >> are doing. > > Yes, I am interested in both mentoring and recruiting and I need to > contact them again; but I do not really intend to point at "recruiters" > here or how hard that is, what I intend to point at with recruiting is > finding those users that are willing to learn to write better ebuilds > and are willing to become a Gentoo Developer. They are hard to find; > and in order for them to be found, a mentor has to find them somewhere. > > Came across three types of people already trying to find a mentee: > > 1. The first one doesn't want to go through the amount of time it takes; > this depends a bit on the queue, but it can take months. > > 2. The second one's interest to become a Gentoo Developer depends from > time to time; so, tries to start over and over to become one. > > 3. The third one writes a lot of ebuilds (and has an overlay that > looks like a gold mine), but there is a language barrier that keeps > the user from contributing; so, we take things slowly instead... > > 4. The fourth one leaves a message on IRC and quits before you return. > > 5. ... I know we are a little OT here but the fifth type of recruit is someone who is very excited, very dedicated, and completely unable to find a mentor. That is where I was for a long time, no one seemed to have the time to mentor me. Personally I think that is a big issue in the growth of gentoo, if we all take a little time out to be mentors there will be more gentoo devs and we will get more done.
- -ZC > > So, recruiting in the terms of "finding recruits" appears to be hard. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSIhvmAAoJEKXdFCfdEflKwykP/32wuUhRfcwYZsq5pZDMhj3e KVDrODlnNt9gsLU3nWj4CuOil5IecWzaODmrejN9bWjW9xEPHGYhs6WfUkGL+8Bm wVg7yun1v/ACNynraLi9F3YimDeFruFSLMeYttaxb04KJVGdCETXQN4/qiKGqRl5 p4o1kEQUAWie0DURKm1rO1z7zdBOJczdk70QAcwO/5t80gCyrIlWFor/jZ1Nvk05 TASTs25Jxd5hQ+FZsqeIem458eQj3j+OvuJBgcBT34+7ka1nsP7ZWmLBVBEvejGC If3D0xaDQD0Rjxf6jtnt8vILSzQTq7UUkGLIvRGlxiA7fFSLxMrQHz2UDo1pxKfg BbQZ4ftm7icjum/DE5XyGWRHlbVE5Zvi/joV+pKoLw2BaDZrxTqGgDjqLGPpP5W4 P7/+3+PH8x9GZKgco1d34eFA9oXdGVorRDybuOb33Hy/CgUvAr+n9tLfPOjHW1Ye U09BTRzlceJQmp3KLHvdmYLIm9THsdI7YfjlSxPyaDKykiFNwRCfRPMvp2FTqBNr doVm8dyX8+4FqtW+BkwdUZjTVEv5AQv9jdqx/rfNy9UJ8qWfLTPXWcHrJWu8gOsv 3G+mAGvqKMXkJWarguydGf3q8QJzmPXscps4vPq9AcTpWldPLQW8lxPzic4IpYjN O3TUqhO0KX9NejKTO6Ef =yG20 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
