On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 03:41:31PM +0200, Fabio Erculiani wrote > Are we realizing that in order to keep systemd out of our way, we're > currently writing and maintaining drop-in replacements for the > features that systemd is already providing in an actively maintained > state? openrc-settingsd was the first thing that we as Gentoo > developers (Pacho?) had to write in order to merge GNOME 3.6 into our > tree.
So Redhat, who are heavily into GNOME ( http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Red_Hat_contributions#GNOME_developers ) decided to make GNOME depend on other Redhat-developed software (systemd and pulseadio). Well... like... dohhhh... Question... when Sun made OpenOffice depend on Java (also a Sun product) did Gentoo developers run around suggesting that Java be made a part of the core Gentoo base system? I don't think so. If a user wants to run GNOME badly enough, he'll switch to systemd. I don't see why the rest of us (i.e. non-users of GNOME) should have to follow along and reconfigure our systems. This is a case of the tail wagging the dog. > So what do we want to do then? Isolate from the rest of the world? > (It's not a sarcastic question). I hope that everybody does their > own reality check. You are effectively calling not-using-GNOME isolationist. Let's just say I disagree with you on that. BTW, see my sig. -- Walter Dnes <waltd...@waltdnes.org> I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications
