On Mon, 25 Mar 2013, Tobias Klausmann wrote:
Hi!
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013, Markos Chandras wrote:
On 25 March 2013 09:30, Tobias Klausmann <klaus...@gentoo.org> wrote:
I'll say it again: if we don't make install media anymore and
tell people to use SRCD instead, we will lose installation
support for at least alpha, ppc/64, hppa and ia64. As for sparc,
mips and arm, there _might_ be alternatives, but I'm not aware of
them.
We can suggest SRCD as an alternative just for the amd64/x86 isos
WFM. Note that I _agree_ that all the install image building is
eating time and is a source for errors.
While I've personally recommended users to use SRCD and use it myself for
a few things, I won't stop working on the amd64 / x86 releases.
Also, from a QA standpoint, having automated builds is very important as
it allows us to catch many problems with the tree or specific packages.
Thing is, if we only build them for fringe archs, we might run
into the "oh well, it's just for those few dozen users, it
doesn't matter if it's slightly broken" effect. Even though the
images were broken for the mainstream, it took quite a while (and
a longish thread) for them to be fixed/taken care of. Imagine if
they'd only been broken for ppc64 and alpha.
As I said, I won't stop working on the amd64 / x86 releases.
While my arch team (alpha) is very lucky to have armin76 taking
good care of the images, not all of them have somebody like him
(who seems to have 36h-days and never sleeping). And if we drop
support for the ISO on amd64/x86, fewer people will probably care
about it, putting more strain on the already thinly-spread arch
teams to fix stuff and track upstream package changes.
Recommending SRCD as an alternative sounds fine by me, especially
for the sheer volume of possible hardware combinations in
amd64-land. But we should still think of our own ISOs as
something supported on all arches we want to offer.
Regards,
Tobias
Regards,
Jorge