On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Arun Raghavan <ford_pref...@gentoo.org> wrote: > On 21 December 2012 17:36, Ciaran McCreesh > <ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 09:21:57 +0000 >> Markos Chandras <hwoar...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>> Your tone is not appropriate for discussion. If you don't like the >>> existing policy, bring it to the list with a better >>> attitude so we can try and discuss it. But given that you want to pick >>> a fight with your email, I will most likely ignore this >>> thread and keep doing our job like we do for many years. >> >> http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m93x01rSVK1qjvxfho1_1280.jpg > > And that also makes a convenient way to always ignore the tone of an > argument, regardless of whether it is justified or not. > > I find that Markos' objection is not unfounded and your argument is > irrelevant here.
I think this is a topic worth discussing, but I think Markos was fair to point out that starting out with an aggressive post isn't the right way to go. Having been recently guilty of something similar (off list) I can sympathize that it is easy to get a bit emotional when passionate about something. It doesn't hurt to provide feedback when this happens. Perhaps the wait time should be increased. Also, if somebody wants to post the email template we could have a go at bikeshedding it into something appropriately soft and squishy. :) If security is a concern, we could also consider adding another "state" to the graph were cvs access is temporarily unnecessary. This could be an intermediate state between active and retired devs, and devs could request reactivation with no further hurdles. This would cut down on unnecessary cvs access but keep the barriers to re-entry low. Long-term inactive devs could still be retired in the current way (if somebody is gone for 5 years with truly no Gentoo involvement they probably should go through recruitment again). However, inactive devs should be genuinely inactive - it shouldn't just be based on commits/etc. The main concern is that they're still connected to Gentoo and have a general sense of what is going on so that they don't go back to their ebuilds with questions like "huh, I wonder if this EAPI thing is important?" Rich
