On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 4:25 AM, Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: >> That's all I'm saying. It's being made a whole lot less pleasant that it >> might be... for what reason? Just to satisfy someone's ego that they're >> right and can /force/ compliance? Yuck! > > Honestly, while I might agree with that sentiment on some of these > threads, my only complaint with Ciaran's original response was that he > could have been a bit more direct with his concern. Rather than > stating that EXTRA_* does not exist as far as ebuilds go, he could > have just stated that PMS does not allow these variables to be used by > an ebuild. > > However, the reply to that email makes it clear that even though it > was unstated Ciaran's meaning was understood. > > Sure, he didn't get into the why, but I'm not sure I'd expect that. > I'd probably state it, but I'm probably the second-most-verbose person > on this list. :) > > If somebody filed a bug against my package and pointed out that > something was illegal per PMS, probably the first thing I'd do is read > it to fully understand the situation, and then if I had a concern I'd > probably ask via irc/private email/etc. That is as much to avoid > making a fool out of myself in public, but also because when somebody > who is obviously knowledgeable points out something they consider a > flaw, it isn't a bad idea to give their concern full consideration. > > Sure, if PMS is wrong it ought to be fixed, but the whole point of > having specifications is that you don't toss them the moment you don't > like what they say. Then again, I work on regulated software in my > real job, and even if the spec is wrong changing it still involves a > process - you don't just ignore it (any behavior in violation of the > spec is an automatic bug - even if the bug is to fix the spec - and > unless pretty trivial is justification to prevent release (often this > is done anyway since it is usually less work to just fix the problem > than justify to the world not doing it)).
I'm not sure if you have noticed, but many developers in Gentoo dislike process ;) > > In any case, it is best to not take these sorts of things personally > all around. Most of us are here because our perverse tastes consider > this stuff fun! :) Might as well keep it that way... > > Rich >
