On 07/30/12 12:28, Michał Górny wrote: > > My point here is that you want the thing to change. So you first try to > convince people here to change. We practically did a small survey here > and in the result we didn't agree on doing the change. > > So you're saying we should do another survey on another group, hoping > that this time the result will be on your side.
We didn't do a survey, we asked, "Is there a reason for not using at least en_US.UTF-8 as a "sane" default value?" Unsurprisingly, the responses contained reasons for not using en_US.UTF-8 as the default. Don't take my original reply out of context, I don't actually care what we have as the default. > > It depends on who the 'unbiased sample' is. Are you interested only in > opinion of Gentoo users who visit the website? Who sync once a day? > Once a week? Who follow Gentoo Planet? Who participate in the forums? > > We can create the survey and announce it everywhere. But it still won't > catch many old-time Gentoo users who can actually have something > opposite to say. It won't be unbiased. The technical objection to C.UTF-8 is that it's non-standard, Ok. What are the technical objections to LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8? If the alternatives are all improvements, the statistics are irrelevant.