On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Kent Fredric <kentfred...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 13 March 2012 11:02, Mike Gilbert <flop...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>> The previous council's decision does not prevent this same glep from >>> going to the council again (decisions are not forever.) >>> Some folks seem to think that taking glep55 back to the council is not >>> allowed somehow (or is perhaps futile, but that is a different issue >>> ;p) Having the full notes would be helpful in determining why it was >>> turned down back then; I'm sure a copy of the notes exist. >> >> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ >> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20100823.txt >> > > Well that was insightful. As suspected,, there was a lot of people > saying "Yeaahh, I don't like it", and concluding there were problems > with it, but the actual technical issues still haven't been presented > to us. > > While they're still batting for the alternative solutions, which there > are known potential issues with. > > Or did I read it selectively? > > Can somebody present a real ( or even theoretical ) problem that could > arise from having the EAPI in the filename that isn't some abstract > hand-waving? > > Not trying to be a troll here, but really, I still haven't seen any.
In general there was the 'I don't like it crowd (I was one of these, I care less these days ;p)' There was the 'it is Ciaran crowd.' This concept is difficult to describe without a fair bit of context in how the community was being run at the time. None of the above reasons are what I would term 'technical merits.' However now (as then) not all decisions are made on their technical merits. We have adopted (and continue to adopt) solutions that are imperfect, technically silly, or otherwise lots of work because they meet some goal we are trying to accomplish. I don't think Gentoo is alone in this aspect of management. The inherent problem of course is that these merits are not provable, so one cannot 'win' an argument on 'aesthetically pleasing filenames'; thus we are doomed to discuss glep55 until someone makes a decision in favor or the proponents of the GLEP stop trying to push it (which is what happened last time.) -A > > > -- > Kent > > perl -e "print substr( \"edrgmaM SPA NOcomil.ic\\@tfrken\", \$_ * 3, > 3 ) for ( 9,8,0,7,1,6,5,4,3,2 );" >
