On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 7:05 AM, Nirbheek Chauhan <nirbh...@gentoo.org> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto > <jmbsvice...@gentoo.org> wrote: >> (c) has irked enough developers and users that people pushed council to >> update the policy about the use of ChangeLogs. > > > Yes, and I'm surprised that these same developers pushed towards a > negative solution (kick productive people out) rather than a positive > solution (move to git).
Getting developers to follow policy and common sense is a people problem. Git won't fix that - at best it might help with this particular issue but not the next 14 that will come up. I'd highly recommend listening to Donnie's "Assholes are killing your project" talk. I think we've come a long way from some of the problems in the past. I think that speaking up on lists when you don't like a policy is healthy for the distro. However, until policy is changed it must be followed - especially for something as trivial as this. The second-to-last thing I want to see is productive developers quitting Gentoo over policy frustrations. The last thing I want to see is a culture where anybody just does whatever they want to. Such a culture turns off far more potential future developers than it keeps around. Gentoo is already a very hands-off distro - just about any dev can do just about whatever they want to improve things and we all tend to go along with it as long as they're making a positive contribution. OpenRC is stable, some people are talking about getting systemd working and others swear that they'll never run it, others spend time making Gentoo work on everything from Win32 to BSD to Plan9, and others look to improve the hardened/selinux experience. The number of rules that I'd consider "restrictive" in Gentoo is very small compared to more top-down organizations - we all do what we want and the users get to choose with some basic safeguards to preserve the mainstream experience. There really is no reason to pitch a fit over the few rules we have in the big scheme of things. Rich