On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 4:39 AM, Mike Frysinger <vap...@gentoo.org> wrote: > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 5:39 AM, Ben de Groot wrote: >> On 12 August 2010 17:13, Thilo Bangert wrote: >>> Ben de Groot said: >>>> On 9 August 2010 14:29, Mike Frysinger wrote: >>>> > sure would be nice if someone picked up the installer again ... >>>> >>>> No, it wouldn't. Best leave that dead and buried. >>> >>> Could you explain why you think so? >> >> 1) it was an experiment plagued by bugs, some *very* serious > > bugs are not a reason to not work on a solution many found useful > >> 2) the normal, "hands-on", follow the handbook, manual install has >> always been the recommended way to install Gentoo, and could be >> considered a rite of passage, familiarizing the user with how things >> are done in this distro > > *yawn* ... heralding from the age of "everything is done from the > console" does not preclude simple and helpful GUI automation. no one > is talking about changing the recommended install procedure, just > providing more options. forcing a command line install can also waste > time on repeat installs as knowledge of the install procedures really > doesnt help you in maintenance of Gentoo once installed. > >> 3) too few people are interested in developing, testing and >> maintaining this; making it more likely that a revival of this project >> will result in failure again >
2 questions: 1) I assume most people who are crazy enough to 'install gentoo on thousands of machines' use some kind of image based installation process and not a color-by-numbers install vis-a-vis the handbook? Has anyone written a Gentoo installer that is not image based? 1.5) There is a hidden assumption here that image based installations would not work for everyone (likely due to a lack of the 'right' image; too old, wrong arch, etc...) 2) Has anyone looked at just taking an existing installation framework (d-i? kickstart?) and just making it run different stuff? I honestly have not looked at either (someone else at work does that thank god) but it can't be outside of the realm of impossibility... -A > that's why i said "it'd be nice" and not "i'm going to do it" > -mike > >
