Skip to the end for a counterproposal... On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 05:13:14PM +1300, Alistair Bush wrote: > I was just thinking how nice it could be if we acknowledged some of the > projects that contribute to gentoo but are actually developed primarily > outside of gentoo's dev community. How about a page on gentoo.org > > So lets me start with a couple of obvious ones. > > kportagetray > pkgcore > paludis > > > There must be more than these or else gentoo really is dead. diffball (the basis of y'alls delta compression for tarball snapshots, progenitor of tarsync used by emerge-*webrsync, etc).
> ps. I would like the packages to be specifically for gentoo, but there are > exceptions to this. as an example openrc (and even paludis to a degree). If > you think that there is a package not specifically targetting gentoo that > deserves a mention please make it clear why. I'm a bit torn by this proposal; on the one hand, a shout out is nice- from a career angle it certainly would've been useful for getting some attention/exposure when I first was starting out. That said, it has some issues with it: * it'll wind up being a fairly subjective list leading to some debates nobody really wants to be involved in (nice euphemism for flamewars). *) the criteria seems to be external projects that are gentoo specific, aparently by non-devs/ex-devs. This raises some questions as to what happens for when it's created by a dev externally (pkgcore went external a long while before I became an exdev), and what happens when the author becomes a dev (I'll be getting my gentoo-x86 +w back soon enough). *) PMS was started outside of gentoo, and maintained outside gentoo for a long while. Now it's a gentoo project. A shout out there would've been warranted (spec work isn't exactly sexy, regardless of any extra baggage that came w/ PMS), but at what point does it suddenly fall off this list? *) kind of the packagekit connundrum- at least for pkgcore/paludis, they were written to support multiple distros/formats internally. Yes they've got traction w/in gentoo, but at what point is it no longer a gentoo specific thing, and more of a "it gained it's first traction in gentoo" ? Openrc I'd argue is in the same boat- yes it can be used elsewhere, but right now we're the owns extracting the most benefit from it. *) it slights the tools that started w/in gentoo's vcs; consider scanelf . Very useful tool deserving some credit, but it would be exempted under these rules. Instead, if the purpose is a "thanks", why not every once in a while put up a news item discussing the tools in question? Such an approach allows folk to focus in on whatever is useful/interesting (regardless of origination) and give the same 'thanks' angle and public exposure for the author in question. Note also it'd likely be interesting to read. ~harring
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