On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 12:11:47 -0500 Mark Loeser <halc...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > Has QA given their blessing to this? > > Absolutely not. Its actually the opposite. Until 90+% of the tree just > works with the new version of python, it should not be stabilized. The > stable tree should all Just Work together. Stabilizing python-3 at this > point would be the equivalent of me stabilizing gcc-4.5 after its been > in the tree for a few months and nothing else works with it. Sure, gcc > works just fine, but it can't compile half of the tree. I don't think it's the same. This is like saying we can't stabilize qt-4 because half the tree is (was) qt-3. These packages are likely never going to work with the newer version, that's why it's slotted and now we have an admittedly impressive framework for making sure python-2 programs get python-2 and python-3 get python-3. Another example from my camp is wxGTK. Half the stuff in the tree (even now) doesn't work with 2.8, so we introduced a system where packages would get the version they needed, while users could use whatever version they wanted independent of portage. 2.8 has been stable for over 3 years now. I've been messing with the new python stuff this past week and I'm sold. If you recall I was one of the people completely against the idea last time this topic came up. > I hope everyone can see that this is a terrible idea and of no use to > our stable users. If a stable user really needs Python-3, they will > have the technical ability to unmask it and use it properly. A stable user who doesn't want python 3 installed shouldn't have it forced on them. If something is pulling in python-3 then that package needs to have its dependencies fixed. IIRC Portage isn't greedy wrt. SLOTs like it was before (unless you use @installed) so it shouldn't be pulled in by anything that doesn't require it. Are we really saying that no python-3-based package can go into stable until 90% of the tree is python-3? That's like, 5 years from now, if ever. -- fonts, by design, by neglect gcc-porting, for a fact or just for effect wxwidgets @ gentoo EFFD 380E 047A 4B51 D2BD C64F 8AA8 8346 F9A4 0662
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