On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Anant Narayanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > maintainers don't need to complete the staff quiz.
The staff quiz is focused on our general procedures and how to behave and interact with other devs. It is a great opportunity for the recruiter to get to know who he (no "she"s in recruiters, applications welcome) is talking to. It's at this time that I have the most interesting discussions with the recruit and learn the most on the individual (s)he is. We had enough issues in the past with technically good people who just couldn't behave that I think skipping this phase is really not a good idea. Because, believe it or not, the recruitment process in general and the review in particular are not only about checking yes/no boxes about the recruit's answers to obscure quizzes. Plus, practically the staff quiz takes very little time. With the old argument being that if you can't spend that little time on the staff quiz then chances are you won't be a dev for long, and thus not worth investing time in. > On the technical side, about the only thing > they really require is a sound knowledge of bash, the do's and don'ts > of ebuilds, and knowledge of how to use eclasses. This is currently what the ebuild quiz is trying to be. I don't understand what difference you want to make between a full dev and a package maintainer when both will have to write the same kind of ebuilds, face the same kind of issues and have to come up with the same kind of solutions. And in in the end create the same risk of instability to the tree, only in a more fragmented, thus less controllable way (due to more clueless people for the same job). > As for the privileges, maintainers wouldn't need an email account, > commit access to portions not concerning their package(s), Meaning that they'll be allowed to break only a certain portion of the tree. That's OK with me, as long as it's not the portion I use. I believe some people depend on gentoo. I don't see any reason to risk making their life miserable. I hope you're not going to take any of the above personally. My opinion is we have proxy maintenance and overlays like sunrise in place already. If they're not working properly I suggest we fix them. There's no point breaking something in the hope you'll fix something else that doesn't work. Go to the root of the problem instead. Denis. -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list