On Friday 18 January 2008, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2008 at 12:26:44AM +0200, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
> > On 1/18/08, Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Thursday 17 January 2008, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> > > > anonvcs.gentoo.org: anoncvs, anonsvn, anongit
> > > > - Anonymous SVN is changing from http:// to svn:// [1]
> > > > overlays.gentoo.org [3]:
> > > > - Anonymous SVN is changing from http:// to svn://
> > >
> > > i'd point out that http:// syncing is usable from behind firewalls
> > > while svn:// is not ... while this does not affect me personally, it's
> > > something to keep in mind.
> > > -mike
> >
> > Just wanted to note this too... I am one of the affected ones...
> > I think that it is very important to have http, and even https for
> > formal resources.
> > git://, svn://, rsync:// or ssh+X:// are inaccessible for a large
> > group of users.
>
> My core concern with the SVN http://, was the crappy performance it
> provided compared to svn://. The main rsync tree has never been
> available for iterative syncing via http://, just had tarball snapshots
> and deltas instead.
i'm not suggesting you *not* provide the proper svn:// and git:// ones.  i'd 
always use those myself when possible (as performance is a ton better as ive 
seen many times).  i'm suggesting we provide both and tell people to use 
svn:// and git://, but if you're behind a stupid firewall, there is also 
http:// available.

> > Also using none secured protocols, exposes users to man-in-the-middle
> > attacks.
>
> The existing http:// had this problem already, it's not a new one.
> git:// and svn:// do both have patches around adding support for adding
> TLS. This however just adds overhead, I really need to finish the
> tree-signing work I was doing, as that protects the content better (MITM
> is still possible on SSL without it, just a lot harder as an attacker
> has to deal with the SSL stream first).

using https:// to secure your data here is the wrong way to go.  if you have a 
man-in-the-middle attacking you, they can do a lot more than inject crap into 
your syncs, some of which you wouldnt even notice.  for the topic at hand, 
this topic does not matter i think.
-mike

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