Chrissy Fullam wrote: >> Ferris McCormick wrote: >> With all due respect, for some reason we don't have Proctors >> anymore to enforce the CoC. Thus, things we would expect the >> proctors to catch and handle under CoC get sent to devrel >> instead. All I am doing is wondering out loud (now that CoC >> is coming alive again) if we should start processing these >> under CoC rules. I'm asking Council because CoC belongs to >> Council, but I do not expect a ruling, just perhaps an >> interesting discussion. See, these things can't be caught >> before they get to devrel because you ensured there would be >> no one to catch them --- you are the one who wanted to kill >> off the proctors, after all. > > Please lay off the personal attacks here; it's getting beyond ridiculous.
I'm sorry that really did not read like a personal attack. I have zero idea what the personal history between the parties is, but from what I have read on this list and project, Mr McCormick has only ever raised perfectly valid questions in a wholly appropriate manner. There are many examples of others using far more personal and frankly abusive comments which are never remarked on. Combined with the apparently partisan manner with which this is being dealt (devrel complaint and the head of devrel posting quite formal-sounding comments [in the other sub-thread] which simply sound threatening) one is left with an impression of a cliquey, factionalised dev-group, and tbh a rather bad taste in the mouth. > Wolf31o2 is not the only council member who wanted to 'kill off the > proctors', see below: > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20070712-summary.txt > - Kingtaco wanted a vote to cancel the proctors. robbat2 wanted them to > just > die quietly if no material was forthcoming. Others called for a definate > stand rather than the "die quietly". All 5 attending council members > voted in favour of dropping the proctors. > Seems to me that every council member in attendance decided they wanted to > 'kill off the proctors.' > Without getting into that whole row, I must point out that meeting was a month after the "lovely email" you referred to, which came out of nowhere. (No prior discussion about any of the concerns had been raised with the proctors team.) Speculation as to the motives of the Council is moot: the consensus for proctors had been thrashed out on this list over a period of several months. Now we will have proctors by another name, only drawn from a far smaller pool much closer to the Council, with the remit confined to this list and no "useless warnings" only immediate action. I sincerely hope that works. [Please note followup] -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
