-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 joshua jackson wrote: > Jakub Moc wrote: >> Petteri Rýty napsal(a): >>> Or just do it via package.use in profiles until IUSE defaults are >>> implemented. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Petteri >> As noted before, they are implemented, just not allowed in the tree. >> Plus, what vapier said, this info belongs to the ebuilds, not to profiles. > >> Wrt pidgin - seriously, what's the big issue here? Users can't use >> emerge -pv output and determine what they want, or? Will we bloat the >> profiles everytime someone forgets to enable a flag and goes complain >> upstream about a 'missing' feature? > > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> !DSPAM:469f3b40137571336712104! > Honestly..this is not something to get picky over jakub. Upstream was > nice and actually came and politely asked us to change the defaults to > what most people would consider sane (all protocols by default). As I > think most people emerging pidgin..would like to use any protocol by > default..not go..hey I don't have yahoo, I should check my use flags. > Which obviously hasn't happened as users pop up in #pidgin to ask why > the heck there isn't a yahoo account available. > > This should be a nothing change to do. Its also working with upstream > and maintaining some good relationships here..and or help improve them > in general. That should in fact you know...be part of our goals....to > improve communications between Gentoo and other projects.
Perhaps we also need to make it more clear where users can ask such Gentoo-specific questions about specific packages, so they don't need to go and annoy upstream. Associate an irc-channel with each package. Most packages have a herd associated with them which can belong to a project which could have an irc-channel where the relevant developers could be found and which can put common problems in its topic. Fallback for when no appropriate irc-channel can be found would be #gentoo. Currently it is usually difficult to find such irc-channels or to know if there is none and that your only option is #gentoo or #$upstream. It would also make it easier for users to start helping developers and eventually become developers themselves, since they won't need to search for a point of entry anymore. Marijn -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGn5Jxp/VmCx0OL2wRAoJlAKCzuF92/4rDf/Cty2uOMDC1mZXdBwCdEj/y cOnwaXHjD8aDvJQ+XShHQ7E= =dfna -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list