Hello Steve! On Monday, 16. July 2007 18:17:00 Steve Long wrote: > Sure, but since you're only doing exactly what you want, when you want, > why do you guys keep bleating about how much work you have, and what > extravagant demands us lusers make on you?
Now, now. You're a nice guy on IRC so what is this nonsense about? :-) Yes, every single Gentoo dev is here for a reason. Some because they want to improve the stuff they use themselves, some want to be able to help users better (yes, such people exist! ;-) ) and some, like myself, simply have fun working on stuff they use *and* helping people by doing that. (And then there are some idealistic motives but let's keep those aside for now.) > And please don't tell me you're not proud of being a Gentoo dev, Yes, I admit it, I am because this is the finest Linux distribution I could find and because there are a lot of nice people around. Yes, some Gentoo devs behave like morons some of the time, like myself again ;), but then, it's the same among the user base so I don't think this is something special between devs. This thread is now a dumpster for every complaint any given dev or user may have and overly complicated ideas are exchanged to solve problems which I simply don't see we're having. Yes, there's a lot of traffic here which will soon drop back to normal once people realised they have beaten this horse to death quite a few postings ago. Personally, I originally favoured the idea of making -dev r/o for anyone but Gentoo devs and have the latter moderate-in anyone else. Obviously, though, this meets with strong resistance by some users and devs so let's simply make this ominous -project mailinglist and see if/how it works. I don't think either solutions makes much sense because it complicates matters unnecessarily but if people really lack a minimum of discipline *and* can't ignore the few loudmouths then so be it. > and it doesn't help you personally in your careers. It doesn't help *me* in my career at all. :-) I'm not in this for money, personal gains or accelerating my career anyway, though. I'm in this for fun, for the people (be they devs or users, I don't really care) and in the hope that I might make the world at least a wee, tiny bit better by what I do and how I try to do it. > You're a bunch of selfish malcontents according to your definition. No, you're exaggerating. :-) Yes, the way some fellow devs stated it, was rather blunt but I'm sure they didn't mean it that way. Best regards, Wulf
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