-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Seemant Kulleen wrote: > > If I were to guess I'd say people are a little confused that this > required action/decision this quickly and outside of a regular council > meeting -- for a real emergency situation, you'd probably see a lot less > of a hub-bub about it. But, come on, this is a 3-package issue.
Perhaps they wanted to make sure it remained a 3-package issue, and thought that it might grow before it could be addressed? This all seems a bit like a tempest in a teapot to me, and I don't mean to single out any individual's contribution to this discussion. The council has stated that multiple version suffixes are to be avoided. I doubt they're going to suspend any developer who hasn't cleaned up their packages by Friday. I'm sure they're happy to see discussion on - -dev regarding pros and cons of various ways of implementing this change before it happens, and in the meantime new packages going into portage will be mindful of the policy from the start. If a particular package needs a month to sort out some really messy issue I'm sure the maintainer would be treated reasonably if they simply emailed a council member about it. Gentoo is a community, and sometimes people in a community don't always agree. Somebody has to make a decision, and we can't make every hill the one we're willing to die on. The council will generally represent the majority opinion of developers, simply due to the fact that it is an elected body. Sometimes in a community cohesiveness is more important than productivity, because it is the ability to mobilize hordes of developers that matters more than the contributions of any individual. Sometimes that means an elegant solution to a problem gets put on the back burner for a few months. Sometimes that means that a developer who is unusually productive is asked to cool down a little. Personally, my feeling has always been that if you want to avoid politics then avoid doing things that create political messes (flamewars, heated discussion, etc). If you disagree passionately with somebody about something, try having a private email conversation where both of you can let down your guard and try to understand each other's concerns. And then don't go quoting each other all over public lists to bolster your arguments... Remember, everybody is here to make Gentoo a better product, because we're all users as well as contributors. When users file poorly-worded bugs they're just trying to help, and when some developer makes an "idiotic" decision they probably think they're doing the right thing. That means that they're going to be automatically predisposed to helping you out if you just ask nicely. When posting as a user in bugzilla I've been flamed more than a few times (and not just on gentoo). I just try to be as polite as I can - after all I'm the one asking for a little help and somebody else is taking the time to help me. After all, it doesn't cost me anything, and down the road it could pay dividends. The same applies in reverse - being nice to others doesn't really cost you anything, and you never know when you will need their help down the road... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGLzbBG4/rWKZmVWkRAkjoAKCZnydd8Y6ZFVVIbz5sh/0sryuxoQCeMFh7 sQ+Icf4GdB1dlEezRxdgvpM= =hpaU -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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