Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Unfortunately, what the GLEP doesn't do is prevent the Council from
> having secret meetings and refusing to discuss not only the content of
> those meetings but even the topic. Perhaps a requirement that any
> Council meeting logs be made public would be useful, with a waiver
> that the Council can have a secret meeting if it officially announces
> that it is doing so?
> 
This is getting silly; a secret meeting which is officially announced?
You cannot stop people from talking amongst themselves. It doesn't work and
it's counter-productive. Consulting a PR in recent times was a smart move,
and not one that can be done in the public glare, akin to a discussion with
an attorney. I for one am glad the Council did it, and gladder still that
it was in confidence.

I have no interest in knowing all the ins and outs, so long as there are
people there who _will_ sort out issues which have to be dealt with. In my
estimation, there are a good set of dedicated individuals who truly care
about gentoo. I might not agree with everything they do or say; so what?
They provide the best distro out there, and contrary to your allegations,
for a user it's better and more stable than ever.

Comparing binary package managers to a source-based one is facile imo. RH or
Ubuntu can do what they want: the competition for gentoo is basically
sourcemage. There are loads of gentoo users who have never had to reinstall
in several years of use. That simply doesn't happen with the `competition'
which you cite.

It seems like gentoo is going from a cottage-industry to a medium-size
organisation. People can work for the same organisation, sharing the same
general ideals, but with completely different approaches; they just work on
different teams. imo that's a good thing, so long as all acknowledge that
there is a _collective_ goal, which no individual could achieve, and agreed
standards of behaviour are upheld.


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