On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 03:27:37 -0700 "Daniel Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If those reasons no longer apply, then your developer status should be > handed back. You can't "sorta" participate - you're either in or > you're not, and it looks like you're in. Right now it seems like you > are fully engaged as a developer in an official Gentoo project.
Which would be worth what, for me? As far as I can see, there's absolutely nothing for me to gain by being labelled an "official Gentoo developer", and an awful lot to lose. I'd have to start playing by arbitrary senseless rules that encourage lying and politics rather than honesty and correctness. I'd have an obligation to go and fix all the stuff I used to maintain in the tree that's been neglected because of all the people in certain herds being inactive or resigned. I'd have to start fixing all those QA bugs I filed that are being ignored by package maintainers rather than just leaving them in bugzilla. I'd have to deal with an obsolete version control system that takes three hours to update. I'd have to go back to using a broken package manager that doesn't do many of the things I require. You speak of it as though being a Gentoo developer is a privilege rather than a responsibility. As far as I can see, the only people who consider it an honour or something to be proud of are those who really shouldn't be developers at all. This should be about getting things done, not about silly labels. > Presumably, you were kicked for non-technical reasons. I was kicked for suggesting that a) ppc-macos was breaking the tree, staffed by people who don't know what they're doing, a QA nightmare and damaging to the project, b) that pathspec was vapourware and conceptually completely broken, c) that the forums were encouraging ricing by letting users discuss insane kernel patchsets and absurd CFLAGS in the main fora, and d) that Portage development has by and large stagnated and that Portage can't deliver the things people require. Funny thing... If you go back and look at those issues now... > I'm not trying to get you kicked as much as I'm trying to determine > whether there are still clearly-defined rules for Gentoo development > that are enforced in any meaningful or consistent way. Were there ever? -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail : ciaranm at ciaranm.org Web : http://ciaranm.org/ Paludis, the secure package manager : http://paludis.pioto.org/
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