On 6/9/06, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Firstly, I think it is very clear that anything in sunrise is experimental
or not supported in the main gentoo tree. That's fine! I don't think any
user who goes through the trouble to set up an overlay would miss that
point. You can't go to o.g.o and not see the disclaimers. And, anyone who
goes through the trouble to svn the overlay, edit make.conf, etc., would
not be an ignorant newbie (no disrespect to newbies intended). Anyone who
fetches the sunrise overlay would know exactly what he/she intends to do
and why. Much different than emerge --sync with keyword x86.

Recently on -user there was someone who couldn't build any gnome apps,
because they had an obsolete gnome2.eclass in their overlay.  This
user certainly didn't know enough about portage or ebuilds to be using
an overlay like that.

Besides, users frequently do imprudent things to their systems.  They
will break their systems by unmasking p.masked stuff (I've done this,
so I am in this group), add dangerous CFLAGS based on random forum or
wiki pages, and use ~arch packages and then rant about any bugs that
show up.

As you've already said, having it on a *.gentoo.org domain gives some
people a higher level of comfort with it, regardless of any
dislaimers.

I have no idea what the quality of the sunrise overlay will be, but it
seems likely to be worse than the currently p.masked stuff.  If
getting sunrise is easy enough, and a substantial number of users
start using it, supporting those users could become very difficult.

-Richard
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