On 2025-03-11, Eli Schwartz wrote: > On 3/10/25 4:53 PM, Maciej Barć wrote: >> Hi! >> >>> Although maybe it should be sci-ml. >> >> Let's _not_ use *-ml since for us ml stands for OCaml (which comes from >> ML - "Meta langauge"). >> >> sci-ai, dev-ai, and app-ai (say, "app-ai/ollama"?) are nice IMO. > > > - please don't top-post > > - Let's _not_ use *-ai since AI stands for generative artificial > intelligence which most of these packages are not, even according to > the intended use of the *-ai term in this thread > > I don't understand your argument at all. "ml" is hardly a reserved > concept, and dev-ml exists precisely for "libraries and utilities > relevant to the ML programming language", which isn't going to get > confused with sci-ml/ for the same reason nobody would dream of > searching in sci-cpp/ for "scientific software written in C++", as the > emphasis is on *science* and naturally brings the concept of machine > learning to mind. > > I could argue that "AI" is too confusing of a term to use because it is > the name of the pale-throated sloth (and because there are other > abbreviations that are DEEPLY not on topic for this mailing list). But > fortunately people possess the ability to recognize context, and will > recognize that Gentoo packages are not talking about members of the > animal kingdom. They will also recognize sci-machine-learning when they > see it. > > Or, we could bite the bullet and stop clinging "short and witty two-word > categories". > > Let's call it "sci-machine-learning/".
Looks good, but would be better without the second hyphen: "sci-machinelearning". Kind of similar to "app-mobilephone". There is indeed no limit on the category name length or structure in the PMS. The way they are named in Gentoo is just a tradition. > But obviously, whatever we call it shouldn't feel like deceptive > trickery to the people ***using*** the packages from this proposed new > category. So I oppose anything with the name "ai" in it, as it's way too > specific, unless it is strictly limited to e.g. ollama, which isn't > actually packaged in ::gentoo and isn't actually on topic as a result.
