On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 10:40:30 +0100
Florian Schmaus <f...@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On 12/01/2025 13.56, Michał Górny wrote:
> > Emit a QA warning suggesting the use of crate tarball, when the
> > package in question uses 300 crates or more.  Such a long crate
> > lists cause ebuilds and Manifests to grow very fast, causing
> > significant space consumption on end user systems (including users
> > who are not using the package in question) and git history growth.
> > On top of that, fetching that many crates takes significant time.
> > 
> > The number of 300 is pretty arbitrary, chosen approximately to match
> > Manifests that are over 100 KiB in size.  We should probably look
> > into lowering in the future, as more packages are transitioned.  
> Thanks for your proposal. I know you wrote it because Gentoo is 
> important to you.
> 
> I am sorry, however, but the arbitrary limit you propose is harmful,
> and its necessity is questionable.

Its worth pointing out that is already being done in Gentoo, see
dev-util/maturin for one example.

> 
> It is unnecessary, at least in its current form, because the size
> growth of Gentoo's package repository is manageable. See the previous
> analysis for EGO_SUM [1].
> 
> What is more worrisome, however, is that it is harmful.
> 
> First, switching from individual crates to a single crate tarball 
> disallows inter-package crate archive reuse. Often, users will
> already have the required crates downloaded because another installed
> package used them. With an artificial create count limit, users must
> download rather large crate tarballs, causing unnecessary traffic and
> increasing the disk space on Gentoo's mirrors and end-user systems.
> The crate tarballs quickly eat away the saved disk space in the
> ebuild repository.
> 
> Even worse, crate tarballs negatively impact the security of Gentoo 
> users as they make it harder to audit ebuilds, and third-party crate 
> tarballs add a further distinct party that can inject malicious code. 
> Considering the recent supply chain attacks, this alone is a
> show-stopper.
> 
> Why is this warning suddenly necessary? Did a user run into an issue 
> caused by more than 300 entries?
> 
> - Flow
> 
> 1: 
> https://public-inbox.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/6ed0f286-f9eb-9e93-4fec-296646f79...@gentoo.org/
> 
> 


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