On Saturday 02 July 2005 18:47, Duncan wrote: > Dan Armak posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted > > below, on Sat, 02 Jul 2005 15:33:34 +0300: > > At least arts is going away with kde 3.x :-) > > I read the rumors on that about a year ago, I'd guess, and have been > trying to keep up with it. Unfortunately as I've been the de facto point > man on a couple of newsgroups (one aka the Gentoo amd64 list, tho there > are Gentoo KDE devs there now), because I just seemed to know more about > it than anyone else, I've heard essentially /nothing/ on it since then. I'm hardly a reliable source on this, I can only repeat what I've seen on the kde-devel and kde-core-devel mailing lists, and I've probably missed some relevant posts there. Other kde@ people should add to what I say here...
> > Back then, there wasn't even a solid proposal as to what would replace > ARTS' various functions. The best solution seemed to be the desktop.org > common solution, only nobody knew what it would look like or when that > would be ready for practical deployment (if ever) either. gstreamer and > other possible partial solutions came up as well. Just plain ALSA's nice, > but Linux-only, so that doesn't work to well. JACK's nice and certainly > cures the latency issues so common in ARTS and other sound daemons of the > era, but it has its own issues -- not /enough/ latency for smooth play on > some kernels and in some instances. I say aRts is going away because it's nearly or entirely unmaintained for a long time now and has been declared dead many times in many forums. AFAIK it's not been decided yet what to replace it with beyond what you already wrote here. > So... what has happened since then, where are we now in the journey, does > whatever look to be ready for KDE's use, and how many more KDE 3.x > releases before KDE 4.0 comes out? (Last year they were talking a quick > 3.4 and then buckling down for 4.0, but now I read about a 3.5 around the > corner. More?) I know there's a new thingy called kdemm, but it's just a framework IIRC; it will still need a sound daemon doing mixing and output behind the scenes. The daemon is what hasn't been decided on yet, but maybe kdemm will support a choice of several (I've no idea if that'll happen). > If there are any informative URLs I've missed, either about KDE 4.0 sound, > or the current KDE roadmap, pointing me to those will be fine. No idea. There don't tend to be many things on static webpages about kde HEAD development and plans. > The latest > release plan I see is still for 3.4.0 and dated from late last year! I guess that page will be updated sometime before the 3.5 release cycle actually starts with alpha1... There's a 3.5 feature plan at http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.5-features.html, and a recent short m/l thread about the release plan starts at http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=111934060916267&w=2, which isn't conclusive but is nearly so. > It's > still talking about 3.4 being the last feature release of the 3.x series, > but as I said, I now see talk of a 3.5 before 4.0. 3.5 is a made decision. It should be released somewhere this autumn. There was talk about it being an apps-only release, with kdelibs focusing on QT4 porting and KDE4 development and having few or no new features, but that's been dropped apparently and KDE4 coding will start on a really big scale only after 3.5. > At least Qt-4.0 is out > now, so KDE-4.0, based on it, shouldn't be /too/ far away. The thread referenced above gives July 2006 as a tentative target date. -- Dan Armak Gentoo Linux developer (KDE) Public GPG key: http://dev.gentoo.org/~danarmak/danarmak-gpg-public.key Fingerprint: DD70 DBF9 E3D4 6CB9 2FDD 0069 508D 9143 8D5F 8951
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