On 6/28/05, Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think the current suggestion in the GLEP is the best we can > > achieve. Old moderators may take the quiz, new moderators must. Given > > enough time all old moderators may retire sooner or later and one day > > all active moderators will be official. > > I just don't see it the same way as you. I agree with having all new > *global* moderators taking the quiz. However, I completely disagree > with you that we should have *some* global moderators that have become > official Gentoo representatives, while others have not. It simply > causes too much confusion and makes things a serious pain to manage. > Either the forums become a much more controlled (as in global mods have > to be staff) environment, or they stay the same. I just don't see how > any middle ground would be feasible without an enormous amount of > managerial overhead that seems like a complete waste of time to me. >
What I do not understand here is where is the confussion. We accept the fact that if any mod/admin wants to become staff, he's got to take the quiz. In our first version of the GLEP, there was a backwards compatibility section that explained that existing mods/admins wouldn't have to take the quiz. That was our internal global consensus and obviously the rest of existing developers do not agree with it. It's just that you do not let us take care of our own things. Even thought that, we did agree about the quiz thing. Unfortunately, some people of our team, with who we agreed on an initial instance are not frustrated by this. So the best solution I see so everyone gets his share and have an intermediate position, nor our initial consensus nor the strict proposal of developers. That is to say, let every single mod decide if he/she wants to become Gentoo Staff or not. As I said above, I do not understand why it is so confusing. Mods/admins that do not become staff, would retire sooner or later as stated by Haas Wernfried, so in the end all mods/admins will be official Gentoo Staff. We could have a transitory time in here for them. About the language: all global mods do speak (write) English fluently. That is too obvious. Global Mods and Admins can take the quiz in English with no problem. The problem comes with our fellow International Forum Mods, who do not have to meet that requirement as they won't be doing their job in English. This means that their English level can be low enough, just to keep up the communication with the rest of the team. We also have to think that many people in the Gentoo Forums do not have a good English level and precisely *that* is the reason International Forums exist. If everyone had a good English level, International Forums and International Forum Moderators wouldn't be required, but that's not the case. -- Ioannis Aslanidis <deathwing00[at]gentoo.org> 0xB9B11F4E <deathwing00[at]forums.gentoo.org> 0xC2539DA3 <aioannis[at]tinet.org> 0xF202D067 <dwcommander[at]users.sourceforge.net> Hellenic Gentoo GNU/Linux project manager (http://hellenicgentoo.sf.net) FIRECOPS++ project manager (http://firecops.sf.net) Digger Realoaded (http://digger-reloaded.sf.net) Gentoo Forums Global Moderator (http://forums.gentoo.org) Computer Engineering student at Universitat Rovira i Virgili -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
