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Aug 17 15:09:40 *       quantumsummers calls the meeting to begin
Aug 17 15:10:30 <quantumsummers>        Hear ye, hear ye, the Gentoo Foundation 
Inc's Annual General Meeting is now in session
Aug 17 15:10:38 <Betelgeuse>    I don't think the AGM cares about trustee quorum
Aug 17 15:10:52 <quantumsummers>        Roll Call (Alec will be joining shortly)
Aug 17 15:10:59 <dabbott>       here
Aug 17 15:11:09 <Betelgeuse>    here
Aug 17 15:11:14 <quantumsummers>        here
Aug 17 15:11:25 <quantumsummers>        and I have confirmation that antarus 
will join shortly
Aug 17 15:11:37 <quantumsummers>        #2: Who is logging?
Aug 17 15:11:46 Usage: ME <action>, sends the action to the current channel 
(actions are written in the 3rd person, like /me jumps)
Aug 17 15:11:54 <quantumsummers>        dabbott: do you mind managing logs?
Aug 17 15:11:57 *       dabbott logging
Aug 17 15:12:02 *       ChanServ gives voice to antarus
Aug 17 15:12:14 <dabbott>       hi antarus welcome :)
Aug 17 15:12:17 <quantumsummers>        hello antarus 
Aug 17 15:12:20 <quantumsummers>        thanks dabbott 
Aug 17 15:12:26 <antarus>       really need to post these to nfp ;p
Aug 17 15:12:49 <quantumsummers>        First order of business: please review 
the President's Report here: 
http://dev.gentoo.org/~neddyseagoon/PresidentsReport_2014.xml
Aug 17 15:12:56 <quantumsummers>        antarus: that suggestion is noted
Aug 17 15:12:56 <dabbott>       antarus: sounds like your first job
Aug 17 15:13:29 <quantumsummers>        antarus: it is the same every month, 
3rd Sunday 1900UTC
Aug 17 15:13:45 <quantumsummers>        Motion to accept the President's Report
Aug 17 15:13:58 <dabbott>       seconded
Aug 17 15:14:04 <Betelgeuse>    I am confused
Aug 17 15:14:08 <Betelgeuse>    Are we having the AGM?
Aug 17 15:14:16 <quantumsummers>        Betelgeuse: yes
Aug 17 15:14:21 <quantumsummers>        this is the AGM
Aug 17 15:14:27 <Betelgeuse>    quantumsummers: then we should see who 
Foundation members are present
Aug 17 15:14:40 <Betelgeuse>    before other business
Aug 17 15:15:00 <quantumsummers>        Betelgeuse: let's take care of the 
reports first
Aug 17 15:15:23 <antarus>       the end of the report is weird
Aug 17 15:15:36 <antarus>       'compared to other businesses we had a great 
year'
Aug 17 15:15:41 <antarus>       why would we write that
Aug 17 15:15:45 <quantumsummers>        no idea
Aug 17 15:15:53 <Betelgeuse>    quantumsummers: In AGM it would be a quorum of 
members that vote
Aug 17 15:15:54 <quantumsummers>        Roy likes to think of the Foundation in 
business terms
Aug 17 15:16:06 <Betelgeuse>    quantumsummers: So how can you have a motion if 
we don't know whether there's a quorum?
Aug 17 15:16:15 <antarus>       quantumsummers: I'm just unsure which other 
businesses we are comparing against ;)
Aug 17 15:16:47 <quantumsummers>        Betelgeuse: I really don't know what 
you mean here. I am following protocol for all the previous years that I have 
been on the board.
Aug 17 15:17:00 <quantumsummers>        We do not define a quorum of members,
Aug 17 15:17:30 <quantumsummers>        as far a quorum for the board, we have 
one.
Aug 17 15:17:30 <dabbott>       Betelgeuse: I think its because we meet on irc 
so not like a meeting in person
Aug 17 15:18:00 <Betelgeuse>    quantumsummers: section 3.9 of bylaws
Aug 17 15:19:07 <Betelgeuse>    I am trying to relate this to Finnish AGM 
general practises but can't really follow
Aug 17 15:19:26 <Betelgeuse>    The boards have little to do in AGMs
Aug 17 15:19:57 <quantumsummers>        ah, ok I see what you are talking about
Aug 17 15:20:38 <Betelgeuse>    I would assume an AGM starts with a rollcall of 
members
Aug 17 15:20:54 <Betelgeuse>    and then see if we have quorum of members
Aug 17 15:21:33 <Betelgeuse>    plus we should state for the record whether 
section 3.2 was followed
Aug 17 15:21:48 <Betelgeuse>    sorry 3.4
Aug 17 15:23:11 <dabbott>       we talked about this before, the lines get 
blurred because of the fact we don't have a real meeting in person, this has 
confused me also
Aug 17 15:23:40 <quantumsummers>        so, typically in Gentoo AGM we simply 
present the reports, the board votes to accept, then we open the floor.
Aug 17 15:24:19 <quantumsummers>        perhaps we should amend the bylaws a 
bit to reflect the current precedent
Aug 17 15:25:07 <Betelgeuse>    dabbott: There are Finnish non profits that use 
IRC for their AGMs
Aug 17 15:25:17 <dabbott>       I wasn't here when the bylaws were put 
together, but looks to me they were taken from another source as a guide and 
then they tried to adopt
Aug 17 15:25:38 <Betelgeuse>    quantumsummers: but if we had a quorum of 
members, wouldn't the members be the ones voting?
Aug 17 15:26:08 <antarus>       can we just take attendance and move on?
Aug 17 15:26:24 <Betelgeuse>    quantumsummers: what you are describing is no 
different from a trustee meeting
Aug 17 15:26:52 <quantumsummers>        indeed, that is what is has looked like 
in the past
Aug 17 15:27:21 <quantumsummers>        have you, as a foundation member, ever 
attended an AGM?
Aug 17 15:28:06 <quantumsummers>        there are 11 +v in here besides the 
trustees
Aug 17 15:28:30 <quantumsummers>        our meetings are never well attended
Aug 17 15:29:24 <Betelgeuse>    quantumsummers: I am just lawyering here to 
follow steps
Aug 17 15:29:46 <antarus>       just take roll, why are we even arguing about 
this
Aug 17 15:29:49 <antarus>       it takes like 2 seconds
Aug 17 15:29:51 <dabbott>       11 in attendance and 83 members 
Aug 17 15:30:22 <quantumsummers>        Member Roll Call - all members please 
state that you are present
Aug 17 15:30:41 <quantumsummers>        as a member, I am present
Aug 17 15:30:48 <dabbott>       here
Aug 17 15:30:49 <Betelgeuse>    here
Aug 17 15:30:56 <antarus>       here
Aug 17 15:31:43 <quantumsummers>        waiting 30 more seconds for any 
stragglers
Aug 17 15:32:39 <quantumsummers>        last call for roll
Aug 17 15:32:49 <quantumsummers>        ok then.
Aug 17 15:33:02 <quantumsummers>        we do not have a member quorum
Aug 17 15:33:22 <Betelgeuse>    ok, thanks
Aug 17 15:33:26 <quantumsummers>        luckily for us, we have no special 
business outside of the following:
Aug 17 15:33:37 <quantumsummers>        1) welcome new board member Alec Warner 
(antarus)
Aug 17 15:33:59 <antarus>       yay!
Aug 17 15:34:00 <quantumsummers>        2) Review and vote on the acceptance of 
the reports from Roy and David
Aug 17 15:34:19 <quantumsummers>        thanks for joining the board antarus, 
may your tenure be fruitful 
Aug 17 15:34:37 <quantumsummers>        we all appreciate you joining
Aug 17 15:34:39 <antarus>       fruit is delicious
Aug 17 15:34:45 <dabbott>       yes thanks alec
Aug 17 15:35:05 <antarus>       as an aside, I am not doing much irc these 
days; so email / phone is best for getting a hold of me
Aug 17 15:35:09 <antarus>       as quantumsummers did earlier ;)
Aug 17 15:35:30 <quantumsummers>        I will also note for the record, that 
David Abbott has stepped down from the board, but has agreed to remain on as an 
officer, Secretary.
Aug 17 15:35:55 <quantumsummers>        so, many thanks to David for offering 
his time and expertise as Secretary
Aug 17 15:36:32 <antarus>       indeed, thanks David
Aug 17 15:36:49 <dabbott>       np
Aug 17 15:37:19 <Betelgeuse>    thanks
Aug 17 15:38:02 <quantumsummers>        I would like to bring the President's 
Report up for a vote now, shall I proceed?
Aug 17 15:38:28 <dabbott>       yes
Aug 17 15:38:31 <quantumsummers>        alternatively, if anyone would like Roy 
to make any changes prior to acceptance, we can vote via mail after the 
respective changes have been made
Aug 17 15:38:46 <quantumsummers>        similarly for the Secretary's Report
Aug 17 15:39:02 <quantumsummers>        we will be voting via email for the 
Treasurer's Report
Aug 17 15:39:22 <antarus>       I'm not sure I care enough about the closing 
remarks to delay it ;p
Aug 17 15:39:34 <quantumsummers>        antarus: please decide
Aug 17 15:39:39 <quantumsummers>        if you care enough :D
Aug 17 15:39:49 <quantumsummers>        since you're not sure
Aug 17 15:40:05 <antarus>       we can proceed
Aug 17 15:40:10 <quantumsummers>        very well.
Aug 17 15:40:37 <quantumsummers>        The motion to accept the President's 
Report was seconded earlier. Please vote:
Aug 17 15:40:42 <quantumsummers>        aye
Aug 17 15:40:54 <dabbott>       aye
Aug 17 15:40:56 <Betelgeuse>    aye
Aug 17 15:41:23 <antarus>       aye
Aug 17 15:41:28 <quantumsummers>        the motion is carried
Aug 17 15:41:43 <quantumsummers>        New motion: Accept the Secretary's 
Report
Aug 17 15:43:08 <dabbott>       well im not on the board so I cannot second 
Aug 17 15:43:16 <quantumsummers>        anyone care to second this motion? 
Alternatively shall we table the motion with requests for edits?
Aug 17 15:43:47 <Betelgeuse>    seconded
Aug 17 15:43:52 <quantumsummers>        thanks Betelgeuse 
Aug 17 15:44:08 <quantumsummers>        Please vote to accept the Secretary's 
Report as it stands:
Aug 17 15:44:14 <quantumsummers>        aye
Aug 17 15:44:17 <Betelgeuse>    aye
Aug 17 15:44:21 <antarus>       aye
Aug 17 15:44:33 <quantumsummers>        the motion is carried
Aug 17 15:45:03 <quantumsummers>        As previously stated, with apologies, 
the Treasurer's Report is not complete. Targetting this coming week for a 
complete draft.
Aug 17 15:45:40 <quantumsummers>        Next up. Date of next meeting: It looks 
like September 21st, 2014 1900UTC.
Aug 17 15:46:02 <quantumsummers>        I note that the table in the meeting 
agenda shows the 17th, which is a Wednesday
Aug 17 15:46:35 <quantumsummers>        everyone OK with 2014-09-21-1900UTC ?
Aug 17 15:46:39 <dabbott>       thats correct
Aug 17 15:47:20 <quantumsummers>        ok, date of next meeting is set 
2014-09-21-1900UTC
Aug 17 15:47:37 <quantumsummers>        I call for Any Other Business from the 
board or officers
Aug 17 15:48:33 <quantumsummers>        If no other business from the board or 
officers, I shall move to the cleanup section, which shall be followed by Open 
Floor.
Aug 17 15:48:39 <quantumsummers>        last chance ...
Aug 17 15:48:52 <quantumsummers>        Ok, Responsibilities:
Aug 17 15:48:55 <dabbott>       I will do the log minutes and motions
Aug 17 15:49:19 <quantumsummers>        Thank you dabbott. There are no emails 
to send.
Aug 17 15:50:15 <quantumsummers>        I hereby open the floor to any member 
or attendee for other business
Aug 17 15:50:52 <quantumsummers>        please bring forth any topic you may 
have
Aug 17 15:51:01 <quantumsummers>        don't be shy
Aug 17 15:51:27 <quantumsummers>        you have one more minute to bring 
business before the board please
Aug 17 15:52:29 <quantumsummers>        As there is no member or attendee 
business, I officially close this year's Annual General Meeting. Thank you all 
for attending. May the source be with you.
Aug 17 15:52:36 *       quantumsummers bangs the gavel to close the meeting




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