G not N. Rather, if you have G only (or b for that matter) it causes the
old long and slow Legacy on air frame format to trigger. I wrote N meant G.

-Joel
On May 24, 2016 10:04 PM, "Joel Wirāmu Pauling" <aener...@aenertia.net>
wrote:

> N DOES NOT HELP at hotels. N over 2.4ghz forces ALL stations on that
> broadcast bandwidth (yes even those not participating) to downgrade to
> Legacy mode ( this behaviour is stupid, but that's what we get for
> backwards compatibility of mac80211 that should hace been abandonded after
> G for a complete redesign ). And there is always some device in hotels that
> ensures you will almost never get anything useable out on 2.4ghz channels.
>
> 5ghz (a and ac or a+n) ammeloriates this, and because of the narroweer and
> more abundant bands and channel options.
>
> The chances are however likely you're get shapped to hell by their captive
> portal before either of these issues. That class of hotel in the states you
> will be lucky with 3 mbit per device, be happy with 10 or 15 for the
> premium paid step option.
>
> As others have said it is time to replace your G device (not least because
> you are a culprit of said above behaviour ;-) ... you can get 3x3 dual band
> dual proc ath9k+ath10k routers that are openwrt-able for 50-70$ (i liked
> the tplink ac1750 v2 As a budget buy, but i hear the v3's require using
> lftp mode to flash ).
>
> Look on openwrt.org for suggestions.
>
> Bridge mode is a BS proprietary method ONLY implemented on bcm2xxx chips.
> You can achieve what you want with relayd (Bridges l2 broadcast domain of
> ANY two networks regardless) on ANY router running openwrt.
>
> -Joel
> On May 24, 2016 9:13 PM, "Duncan" <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Mark Knecht posted on Tue, 24 May 2016 15:11:20 -0700 as excerpted:
>>
>> > Anyway, I guess if it was me I'd use the one you have short term while
>> > at the hotel and then look at my house system when I landed someplace
>> > permanent and try to go as fast as possible then.
>>
>> Bridge mode.  Thanks.
>>
>> And sticking with the old router is a reasonable suggestion.  I'm just
>> not sure it's actually going to be practical in the shared hotel
>> environment.  But with G mode now quite outdated, provided the hotel
>> still offers that and I'd guess they do still offer at least G (tho maybe
>> not A/B), it /might/ mean I'm about the only one on it and
>> /could/ mean I even get better speeds than I would on the N and AC modes
>> if they're clogged.
>>
>> I'll have to call and confirm they offer G mode...
>>
>> Worst case, I don't have Internet for three months and watch TV and/or
>> get a lot of books read.
>>
>> > Good luck with the move. Moving is tough. Stay cool in this heat.
>>
>> Yeah.  The two good points are (1) that the city is actually paying
>> commercial movers for the move, which I effectively signed off on today,
>> so worst-case, I don't do anything and let them do it all, but end up
>> storing a bunch of stuff I'd probably get rid of if I did it myself, and
>> not having the stuff I'd keep as sorted, but it does kind of lower the
>> stress as one way or another it'll get done, and (2) while it's
>> unpleasantly forcing me out of my familiar shell in the near term, the
>> change should be healthy for me long term.
>>
>> As for the heat, I've not felt it much yet this year.  Given that it's
>> happening at the very early tip of June, I hope/expect it won't be too
>> bad.  I'm a bit worried about the move out of the temp housing at the end
>> of August, however.  Except if I get my butt in gear and have things
>> sorted and a lot thrown out at this end on the first, then I'll have less
>> to deal with on the other end and it'll be already sorted.
>>
>> --
>> Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
>> "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
>> and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman
>>
>>
>>

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