On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
> Frank Peters posted on Wed, 24 Sep 2014 12:58:22 -0400 as excerpted: > > > This method may seem strange and even regressive and stubborn to many > > Linux users. All I can say in response is that one has to be a little > > bit fanatical to even use Linux, > > ... let alone Gentoo,... > > > and I am probably more than just a little bit fanatical. > > =:^) > > While few gentooers take it to the level you have, I expect most > understand the concept. After all, they /are/ gentooers. =:^) > > FWIW, I was doing something similar with my own suspend/hibernate script > for awhile. I stopped once I switched to systemd as its related > functionality works well enough, and does what I want and need without > the whole policykit, etc, circus, which I do *NOT* want or need. > > There's a certain "direct drive", "close to the metal" confidence you get > from mastering the concepts well enough to do it yourself like that. Any > gentooer should appreciate the concept to some extent, but those that > have actually gone beyond gentoo and bare-scripted at that level I think > appreciate even more both the concept, and how powerful and even > addicting it can be. For those who have done it, there's a definite loss > in doing it any other way. For some people at some point, that loss is > worth it to avoid the additional maintenance and responsibility that > comes with it, while for others there is and can be no acceptable > replacement for that direct control. > Oh, come now. Gentoo is for the folks who want it all simple and easy, packaged pretty and tied with a bow. Real Linux techies only use Linux from Scratch http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ ;) > > FWIW, as I said I've accepted that loss in letting systemd handle the > suspend and hibernate details for me now, but OTOH, while I can > appreciate those who for instance leave gentoo for arch, assuming gentoo > is still viable at the time, I have a hard time envisioning me running > anything else even 20-30 years from now when chances are I'll be in a > retirement home. I /am/ nearing 50 after all, and 30 years from now > would put me at 77, at which point there is definitely a fair chance I'll > be in a retirement home, if I'm even around any longer... And yes, I > think there's a fair chance I'll still be running gentoo, even then. =:^) > > IOW, I think it's fair to say that most/all gentooers are at least a bit > fanatical in that way, enough to appreciate and respect your position. > Certainly I do. =:^) > > -- > Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. > "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- > and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman > > >