> On Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009, Markos Chandras wrote: > > > On Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009, Markos Chandras wrote: > > > > > On Donnerstag 11 Juni 2009, Markos Chandras wrote: > > > > > > > Barring the somewhat humorous ending to this warning from my > > > > > > > latest updates to KDE, I'm a little concerned by the import of > > > > > > > the message. Can someone enlighten me? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * WARNING! You have kdeprefix useflag enabled. > > > > > > > * This setting is strongly discouraged and might lead to > > > > > > > potential troubles * with KDE update strategies. > > > > > > > * You are using this setup at your own risk and kde team does > > > > > > > not * take responsibilities for dead kittens. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What update strategies are being considered that would break by > > > > > > > using this? And was this a KDE message directly? Or is this a > > > > > > > warning from the Gentoo KDE devs? > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a warning message from Gentoo KDE devs . kdeprefix is a > > > > > > gentoo thingie and it not supported by official KDE upstream. > > > > > > Thus I might not work that well. It is only advised to use it if > > > > > > you want to have kde:4.2 and :live together. I would recommend to > > > > > > disable it globally and run emerge -uDN world > > > > > > > > > > and I wouldn't touch it and ignore the message. > > > > > > > > > > kde has a long history of not installing into /usr directly - and > > > > > that was always a good thing. > > > > > > > > The message exists there for a reason. It is up to the user whether > > > > he ignores it or not. As a member of Gentoo KDE team I would advice > > > > him to drop kdeprefix > > > > > > why? to make it harder to clean up after a mess? so that future kde > > > versions trip over each other? > > > > Mess? Ok. I wont argue. He know his options and he can make his choices > > please explain me why this option is bad? > > I can give you examples why it is good: > -you can have multiple versions of kde installed (well, you could in the > past, until someone started to put crap into python's directories). > and This operation is somehow broken at the this time and the official Gentoo KDE team words are "We don't encourage kdeprefix usage". Since kde upstream doesnt support this prefix thingie, it is normal to encounter some breakages from time to time. For a sane system situation, - kdeprefix is advised. > - it makes updates risk free. You go from X.Y.Z to X.Y.Z+1 or X.Y+1 - and > before you do so, you just copy the whole kde dir. In case of severe bugs > (and especially with kde 3 you always had some nasty bugs), you just copy > the directory back and can use kde in the hours portage needs to recompile > stuff - or in the minutes it needs to install from packages (well, split > ebuilds increased that time A LOT). This operation is not a user friendly approach. Normally when you move from X.Y.Z -> X.Y.Z+1 , the bug number tend to decrease. But yes, if you want to have e.g. 4.2.3 and 4.2.4 at the same time, kdeprefix is the only way. But as I said kdeprefix leads to many side-effects that are not welcomed. So just for the record, as I said , kdeprefix usage is not encouraged :) Anyway, each users has different needs so he can choose whether kdeprefix works for him or not -- Markos Chandras (hwoarang) Gentoo Linux Developer [KDE/Qt/Sunrise/Sound] Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org
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