OK, then, let me back up.

Conceptually, once upon a time this project had a lot more stuff in
it, and there was an idea that there were several small pieces that
could be conceptualized as 'commons'.

After the split of Axis and the Atticing of a few things, there is
much less content all around. The categorization of xmlschema and
neethi as 'commons' while, say, wss4j is not, is, I claim, completely
arbitrary and confusing. So, in terms of a web site that presents
these components to the world, I repeat that it seems to me to be
obvious that it should be flattened. If you disagree, you're welcome
to explain your point of view.

This wasn't even my idea. Dims originally did it when starting the
Confluence site, long before the reorg. I just carried it back onto
the Forrest site to simplify it and reduce the effort of cleaning it
up.

It's classic lazy consensus. No one else had done a lick of work in a
long time, work needed doing, so I picked a strategy and did
something. If you dislike it enough for a -1, in this case, I propose
that you should be willing shoulder some of the burden of meetings the
board's requirements for cleaning up the web site. This approach to
the web site is also rather consistent with the mailing list changes,
which attracted nothing but favorable comment.

As for making work, well, it seems to me that this community hasn't
been doing it's basic homework of maintaining the top of the web site
for *years*. Either some work is going to get made and done, or, I
think this project will by further subdivided to meet the board's
imperatives. I would be perfectly happy to take XmlSchema out as it's
own TLP and let the rest of this stuff end up wherever. I am also
willing, however, to take the WS project seriously as a project, and
not just a dustbin, which is what I am doing here by cleaning up the
web site.

Finally, I'm not seeing how it makes work in any interesting way to
clean up the arrangement of SVN. Since these pieces are all built
independently, their relative positions in the SVN tree are rather
uninteresting. Am I missing something?


On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Jochen Wiedmann
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Benson Margulies
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I hope no one will be offended by offering this as a vote right off
>> the bat, but it seems sort of self-evidently a good idea to me.
>
> Don't know why you think so. Renaming stuff and so on is a lot of work
> which should be spent with a reason. Just calling it "self-evidently"
> isn't such a reason, IMO. And starting before asking is, at best,
> unlucky,
>
> Jochen
>
>
>
>
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