On 31/05/2008, Dennis Lundberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> sebb wrote:
>
> > On 31/05/2008, Henning Schmiedehausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > You need the binary archive to build the binary archive? That makes no
> sense
> > > to me.
> > >
> >
> > No, one just needs the libraries contained in the binary archive in
> > order to build the binaries.
> >
> > This is to avoid unnecessary duplication - the libraries are quite large.
> >
> >
> > > It should be possible to download only the sources and then build the
> > > binary archives.
> > >
> >
> >
> > >  Remember, the source *is* the only form of release that we actually do.
> The
> > > binaries are just an added bonus. This has been discussed in epic
> breadth on
> > > various lists before.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Yes, and the source archive contains the source.
> >
> > However, the library files have to be provided in order to build it.
> >
>
>  How about adding a "download-libraries" target to the Ant build, that
> downloads the dependencies from the central (Maven) repository?
>

That's a possibility for a future release.

Almost all users of JMeter will need the binary version.

Anyone who wants to build add-ons for JMeter will need the binary version.

It's only if someone wants to build JMeter from scratch that they will
need the source.

We did consider releasing JMeter as 3 archiives: source, binary and
libraries, but it was felt that the user should not be required to
download multiple archives in order to start using JMeter.

>
> > For a Maven project, this is done by declaring dependencies on the
> > library files, which it may (or may not if "provided") download for
> > you.
> >
> > In this case, the Ant file has a dependency on the binary archive. It
> > just does not download it for you.
> >
> >
> > >        Best regards
> > >                Henning
> > >
> > >
> > >  sebb schrieb:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 30/05/2008, sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On 28/05/2008, Henri Yandell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >  > MD5, PGP good.
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  >  It's a bit odd that the binary version comes chock full of jars
> and
> > > > >  >  the source version doesn't. When I run 'ant' in the source
> version I
> > > > >  >  get:
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  >  BUILD FAILED
> > > > >  >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> /Users/hen/apache/jmeter/jakarta-jmeter-2.3.2/build.xml:925:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >  >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > /Users/hen/apache/jmeter/jakarta-jmeter-2.3.2/lib/opt
> not
> > > found.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I need to look at that.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > Fixed in SVN.
> > > >
> > > > If a build is attempted from just the source archive the output is:
> > > >
> > > > C:\ReleaseCheck\jakarta-jmeter-test> ant
> > > > Buildfile: build.xml
> > > >
> > > > _message_3rdParty:
> > > >    [echo] Cannot find all the required 3rd party libraries.
> > > >    [echo] If building from a release, you need both source and
> > > > binary archives.
> > > >
> > > > BUILD FAILED
> > > > C:\ReleaseCheck\jakarta-jmeter-test\build.xml:937:
> Cannot
> > > >
> > > find required classes
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >  >  I'm also suspect of whether it will build with so few jars
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > available.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >  >  I don't see junit in there, or being hooked up to download.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It won't build on its own.
> > > > >  To avoid duplication, building requires the binary archive as well.
> > > > >  This is documented in the README file.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  >  In the current source download, the geronimo and velocity jars
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > should
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >  >  ideally have their license and notice files.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > As they are ASF projects, I assumed that they were covered by the
> > > > >  following in the NOTICE file:
> > > > >
> > > > >  "This product includes software developed at
> > > > >  The Apache Software Foundation (http://www.apache.org/)."
> > > > >
> > > > >  and the LICENCE.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  >  The following jars need license files in the binary download:
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  >  junit (CPL)
> > > > >  >  htmllexer (I'm assuming it's under the htmlparser CPL?)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, it's part of htmlparser.
> > > > >
> > > > >  >  js_rhino (MPL iirc)
> > > > >  >
> > > > >
> > > > >  OK; there were pointers to the online versions in the main LICENSE
> > > > >  file, but I've now added local copies.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  >  Ideally, various ASF Apache 2.0 licenses/notices would also be
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > there;
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >  >  but those are the three important ones.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  >  Hen
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  >  On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 4:50 PM, sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > > [Third time lucky, I hope]
> > > > >  >  >
> > > > >  >  >  There is one trivial code change from RC1:
> > > > >  >  >  * Log the property java.vm.name which shows whether the
> -client
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > or -server
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >  >  >  Java flag was used when starting JMeter
> > > > >  >  >
> > > > >  >  >  Otherwise the main changes relate to the way the archives are
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > created:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >  >  >  the tar files use LF endings for native files, and the zip
> files
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > use
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >  >  >  CRLF endings. The JMX test and demo files have been updated
> to
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > the new
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >  >  >  format. Some AL headers were added.
> > > > >  >  >
> > > > >  >  >  As far as I can tell I've fixed all the previous test
> problems
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > that
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >  >  > were reported (and one I accidentally introduced in RC2 when
> the
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > EOL
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >  >  > settings were tidied up).
> > > > >  >  >
> > > > >  >  >  Note that there is a bug in Java on some Linux systems that
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > manifests
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >  >  >  itself as the follow error:
> > > > >  >  >
> > > > >  >  >  [java] WARNING: Couldn't flush user prefs:
> > > > >  >  >  java.util.prefs.BackingStoreException:
> > > > >  >  >  java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Not
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > supported: indent-number
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >  >  >
> > > > >  >  >
> > > > >  >  >  Archives/hashes/sigs and RAT report:
> > > > >  >  >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > http://people.apache.org/~sebb/jmeter-2.3.2RC3/dist
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >  >  >
> > > > >  >  >  Site/Docs are here:
> > > > >  >  >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > http://people.apache.org/~sebb/jmeter-2.3.2RC3/docs
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >  >  >
> > > > >  >  >  Tag:
> > > > >  >  >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/jmeter/tags/v2_3_2RC3
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >  >  >
> > > > >  >  >  Keys are here:
> > > > >  >  >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/jmeter/trunk/KEYS.txt
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >  >  >  also
> > > > >  >  >
> http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jmeter/KEYS
> > > > >  >  >
> > > > >  >  >  All feedback (and votes!) welcome.
> > > > >  >  >
> > > > >  >  >  [  ]+1 - the release candidate is OK
> > > > >  >  >  [  ]-1 - there is a problem (please indicate what it is)
> > > > >  >  >
> > > > >  >  >  The vote will remain open for at least 72 hours.
> > > > >  >  >
> > > > >  >  >  Note: If the vote passes, the intention is to release the
> archive
> > > > >  >  >  files and create the release tag from the RC3 tag.
> > > > >  >  >
> > > > >  >  >  Here's my:
> > > > >  >  >
> > > > >  >  >  +1
> > > > >  >  >
> > > > >  >  > S///
> > > > >  >  >
> > > > >  >
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