On 5/14/07, Jesse Kuhnert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From a practical pov isn't java already associated with the word grouping
"commons apache"?

To Java folks it is. But, XML has a Commons too, as does Web Services.
A third group tried to create a top-level Commons last year, and
creating Commons for other languages has been discussed in other
places. Once we have a Commons PMC for the Java language, other folks
will want to do the same.

If you need a differentiator I would put it in the commons-net.apache.org or
whatever name instead of soiling the existing "branding" that has already
been cemented in everyones minds whether people like it or not.

The underlying problem is that Sun won't like us use "Java" as a
modifier. The reason we use the word "Jakarta" is because Sun asked us
to find another host name. The brand that is cemented in everyone's
mind is "Jakarta == Java".

Speaking as the knucklehead who suggested the "Commons" subproject
name in the first place, I don't believe it is in the spirit of the
Foundation, or the Commons ideal, for us to assume such a generic name
all to ourselves.

-Ted.

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