Daniel F. Savarese schrieb:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Andrew C. Oliver" writes:
>   
>> lists.  (If you disagree look at the list archive for
>> each over the last 6 months and see if you REALLY disagree in more than 
>> THEORY).
>>     
>
> At least for oro, some Linux distributions continue to ship it as part of
> their core packages.  For example, Fedora Core 4, 5, and 6 all included
> it and 7 will include it as well.  That's millions of real installations.
> It would be negligent to give the impression that Apache will no longer
> support the software should maintenance requests be made when there are
> in fact committers dedicated to doing the work.  No, there haven't been
> any bug reports for oro for years and I don't know why it ships with
> Linux distributions, but it does and until it doesn't, it's not a
> "dead" project.  There's no need for project-specific mailing lists
> anymore, but I'm -1 on putting up a "closed" page for any project
> with a user base that continues to require support and for which we
> are able to provide support.  Users do need to be directed somewhere
> for support and I don't care if that's general@ or some other list
> as long as there's an avenue for providing that support.

I strogly agree with Daniel. Even if there are no ongoing activities on
a project, we should never, NEVER call it "dead" or give it any other
attributation with a negative tone. "Dormant" also has negative
implications. "Mature" would be fine.

Best regards
Rainer Klute

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