Looking forward to having you on board! Airflow experience + general apache
wisdom will be much appreciated.

-Elijah

On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 5:35 PM Stefan Krawczyk <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Sounds good to me.
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 1:30 AM PJ Fanning <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Jarek. I think that you bring great experience and expertise
> > and would be a great mentor to Hamilton and Burr and any other
> > podling.
> >
> > On Mon, 20 Oct 2025 at 07:59, Jarek Potiuk <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > TL;DR; Following earlier discussion with Justin, I would like to
> propose
> > > myself to be accepted as a mentor by Hamilton and Burr incubating
> > projects.
> > >
> > > I have been already trying to help and provide my guidance - last
> month i
> > > was on a long vacations and attending both Community Over Code and
> > Airflow
> > > Summit so my availability was kinda limited, but since I am back now
> and
> > > got a bit through pile of things that grew, I am happy to spend a bit
> > more
> > > time - and I would love to be officially accepted as a mentor.
> > >
> > > Of course - I spend all 150% of my time on Airflow, but also after 6
> > years
> > > of being PMC member that also means I have quite a good understanding
> of
> > > what it means to be an ASF project - from release, discussions, vendor
> > > neutrality, decision making and building community point of view, so I
> am
> > > happy to provide my guidance to both Hamilton and Burr - both
> technology
> > > and "space" and user base are very similar to Airflow - so you might
> see
> > > Hamitlon and Burr as somehow "competition" to Airflow but in case of
> ASF
> > we
> > > do not think in this terms for other ASF projects (we already have
> > "NiFi",
> > > "Dolphin Scheduler" used to have "Oozie" and there are few other ASF
> > > projects that are similar. And I am friends (and have been helping in
> the
> > > past) all of those PMCs as well).
> > >
> > > As long as we avoid (as PMC) referring and "poking" at others and avoid
> > > unhealthy "comparative" communication (there were other cases in the
> ASF
> > > where "competing" projects had this kind of communication and it was
> > called
> > > out and stopped) - this is all part of "release software for public
> good"
> > > mission and healthy "coopetition" - we can also learn from each other.
> > And
> > > to be honest also my interest in spending time looking at Hamilton and
> > Burr
> > > discussion is to see if we can learn something and apply to Airflow -
> we
> > > are always at a lookout of ideas and looking at what others do - purely
> > to
> > > see if we can improve and maybe creatively apply similar approaches if
> we
> > > find them interesting and useful for our users.
> > >
> > > One more things - for those who do not realise - I met Stefan already
> and
> > > we discussed Hamliton and Burr in the past - both in "electronic" and
> > > in-person communication, I think last time we met at Pycon US in 2024
> and
> > > this is where we also discussed that one day Hamilton and Burr might
> > become
> > > an ASF incubated project (I hope that discussion was partially reason
> why
> > > they both incubate now, though I think only Stefan can tell how much it
> > > influenced it.
> > >
> > > One last thing - I am also a security committee member at the ASF -
> which
> > > means that I am involved in overlooking the process of security issue
> > > handling, and i also see all the security related discussions, this is
> > > something (security) that will become even more important in near
> future
> > > (because of CRA regulations and similar) - and I am happy to help with
> > that
> > > as well - I am also involved in "Apache Trusted Release" efforts by the
> > > Foundation so hopefully in the next few months we will get to the place
> > > where the mechanics of releases will get a major improvement - with ATR
> > > web-based + API tooling, more automation, no SVN involvement and better
> > > automation (including Trusted Publishing and Apache PyPI organisation
> to
> > > publish projects) - this is an ongoing efforts where Airflow is part of
> > > Alpha (so far) and Beta (next month or so) testing and I will be happy
> to
> > > help with onboarding Hamilton and Burr to that as well.
> > >
> > > I also write long emails (heh :) ) so you will have to bear with me.
> But
> > I
> > > always try to put TL;DR; to summarise it for those who do not wish to
> > read
> > > it all.
> > >
> > > I hope I can be helpful here.
> > >
> > > J,
> >
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