I’m the one who got confused as I’m working on a similar question from one of 
my podlings. I’m more and more of opinion that IP Clearance should NOT be done 
in the Incubator. That should be moved to some combination of Legal and 
Secretary.

> On Aug 9, 2025, at 6:38 PM, tison <wander4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Instead Grails would best work to seek an SGA from the author or ask them to 
>> join and personally donate the code via an ICLA.
> 
> Did I misread some threads? I suppose it's about Apache Druid and
> druid-operator. Apache Druid is a TLP and is not Grails .. Where comes
> Grails?
> 
> Best,
> tison.
> 
> Dave Fisher <w...@apache.org> 于2025年8月10日周日 04:15写道:
>> 
>> Hi Tison,
>> 
>>> On Aug 9, 2025, at 12:44 AM, tison <wander4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Razin,
>>> 
>>> You can follow [1][2] for the process going through the IP clearance.
>>> Once the IP clearance proposal gets lazy approval, you can file an
>>> INFRA ticket ask for repo transfer.
>>> 
>>> [1] https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/
>>> [2] https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html
>> 
>> The IP Clearance process is surprisingly only meant for PMCs and not for 
>> Podlings.
>> 
>> Instead Grails would best work to seek an SGA from the author or ask them to 
>> join and personally donate the code via an ICLA.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> 
>>> However, I noticed that there is an organization named
>>> https://github.com/druid-io/, which can mislead Druid's
>>> branding (that's, a third party unofficial org under the name of an
>>> ASF project). You should work with their people to figure out a
>>> different name. This can be a separate issue to resolve, though.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> tison.
>>> 
>>> Razin Bouzar <rbou...@salesforce.com.invalid> 于2025年8月9日周六 11:14写道:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> Craig, thank you for the information.
>>>> 
>>>> The druid-operator project originated with Himanshu Gupta in 2019 under the
>>>> Apache License, Version 2.0. The first commit in the original repository,
>>>> data-io/druid-operator <https://github.com/druid-io/druid-operator>, was
>>>> authored by Himanshu Gupta on Oct 24 10:24:22 2019 with the message "druid
>>>> operator based on operator-sdk v0.5, written in collaboration with Akash
>>>> Dwivedi <akash....@gmail.com>" (commit hash bb07f14). In 2022, the
>>>> repository was forked to datainfrahq/druid-operator </> following community
>>>> discussion <https://github.com/druid-io/druid-operator/issues/329>. The
>>>> first commit in the fork matches the first commit in the origin,
>>>> data-io/druid-operator.
>>>> 
>>>> Over the lifetime of the project Himanshu Gupta and Adheip Singh have made
>>>> the majority of contributions to the repo. We fetched contributor activity
>>>> running `git shortlog -sne`. Himanshu Gupta and Adheip Singh both have
>>>> Individual Contributor License Agreements (ICLAs) on file.
>>>> 
>>>> The project has had multiple tagged releases, with a tag history available
>>>> from the git repository. A detailed log of annotated tags is available for
>>>> each repo. The LICENSE file in the original and forked repositories has
>>>> consistently contained the Apache License, Version 2.0. A review of the
>>>> LICENSE file history via `git log --follow -- LICENSE` confirms that no
>>>> other license terms have been introduced. A scan of the source code via
>>>> `grep -R "Licensed under the Apache License"` confirms that appropriate
>>>> license headers are present in the codebase. We have compiled all
>>>> supporting documentation from each repo in a shared Google Drive folder
>>>> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16WHwZdI7iZg8xBSeoPdUzX3qtgZlJyBB>,
>>>> including full commit logs from both repositories, contributor lists with
>>>> commit counts, annotated tag metadata, license header scans, and internal
>>>> records of signed ICLAs.
>>>> 
>>>> In summary, the druid-operator project has maintained consistent Apache 2.0
>>>> licensing from its origin in 2019 through the present. Major contributors
>>>> have ICLAs on file, and the project history is fully traceable through
>>>> public git logs. We request guidance on next steps.
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Razin
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 9:52 AM Craig Russell <apache....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The main thing to do is to establish IP ownership of the code to be
>>>>> donated (in this case, the modifications to the original). If all
>>>>> significant contributors sign an ICLA, and they retain ownership of the
>>>>> code, then that should do it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If some external entity owns the IP to the code, then a software grant
>>>>> (SGA) would be appropriate, signed by the representative of the IP owner.
>>>>> The grant would be filed as part of the process.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Warm regards,
>>>>> Craig
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 9, 2025, at 15:58, Razin Bouzar <rbou...@salesforce.com.INVALID>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear Apache Incubator Community,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am seeking guidance on the process for donating the druid-operator
>>>>>> <https://github.com/datainfrahq/druid-operator> to the Apache Druid
>>>>>> project. The project is a fork of an original operator
>>>>>> <https://github.com/druid-io/druid-operator> developed for managing and
>>>>>> scaling Apache Druid clusters. The project is licensed under the Apache
>>>>>> License 2.0
>>>>>> <https://github.com/datainfrahq/druid-operator/blob/master/LICENSE>, and
>>>>>> there is community consensus
>>>>>> <https://lists.apache.org/thread/1t5m030o54n4ckjqcdnbd87z6mpnl8t5> for
>>>>> this
>>>>>> donation.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We are familiar with the IP Clearance process but would appreciate
>>>>>> clarification on:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. Any specific licensing considerations given the project's status as
>>>>> a
>>>>>> fork.
>>>>>> 2. Additional legal or procedural steps before IP Clearance.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Looking forward to your guidance.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> Razin Bouzar
>>>>> 
>>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>>> c...@apache.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> RAZIN BOUZAR
>>>> Monitoring Cloud | Salesforce
>>>> Mobile: 317-502-8995
>>>> 
>>>> <https://smart.salesforce.com/sig/rbouzar//us_mb/default/link.html>
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