Hi Yu,

Thanks for driving discussion of Fluss proposal. Fluss is a new streaming 
storage built for real-time analytics, which is different from message queue. 
The community of this project is also very active and healthy. Looking forward 
to incubating of Fluss.

Regards,
Nicholas Jiang

On 2025/05/21 08:43:22 Yu Li wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> 
> I would like to propose Fluss [1] as a new apache incubator project, and
> you can find the proposal [2] of Fluss for more details.
> 
> 
> Fluss is a distributed storage service designed to deliver high throughput
> and sub-second latency for streaming read and write operations. It aims to
> provide a unified data layer that bridges real-time processing with data
> lakehouse architectures. Building real-time analytics pipelines on top of a
> data lakehouse requires key capabilities such as tabular query support,
> efficient data updates, changelog subscriptions, and the ability to
> periodically snapshot data into lake file formats like Apache Iceberg and
> Apache Paimon — functionalities that existing message queue systems such as
> Apache Kafka are not well suited to address.
> 
> 
> To tackle these challenges, Fluss offers the following features:
> 
> 
> 1. *Table-Oriented Data Model, Not Topics.* Unlike traditional messaging
> systems that rely on topics, Fluss treats tables as first-class citizens,
> aligning its data model with that of modern data lakehouses.
> 
> 2. *Columnar Stream Storage.* By storing streaming data in a columnar
> format (specifically Apache Arrow), Fluss achieves up to 10x faster read
> performance for analytical queries over streaming data.
> 
> 3. *Real-Time Updates and Changelog Subscription.* Fluss natively supports
> data updates and generates fine-grained changelogs, enabling low-latency
> incremental stream processing and state synchronization.
> 
> 4. *Streaming & Lakehouse Unification.* Fluss enhances the stream
> processing capabilities of lakehouse architectures by seamlessly supporting
> both real-time ingestion and historical analysis within a single system.
> 
> 
> Fluss is currently deployed in production environments at Alibaba and many
> other companies, where it has reduced total operational costs by up to 80%
> compared to traditional message queue systems in a variety of use cases. In
> addition, the project has gained traction in the open-source community,
> with active adoption from organizations such as ByteDance, AntGroup,
> Ververica, eBay, Dynatrace, and Dream11. Many of these users have also
> contributed code and improvements, helping to form a vibrant and growing
> community with dozens of active developers.
> 
> 
> The proposed initial committers are eager to join the Apache Software
> Foundation (ASF) to foster broader collaboration and further strengthen the
> community. We believe that bringing Fluss into the Apache Incubator will
> unlock significant value for the broader open-source ecosystem.
> 
> 
> I am honored to serve as the champion for this project and will mentor it
> alongside three additional mentors (many thanks to them all):
> 
> 
> * Becket Qin (j...@apache.org)
> 
> * Jingsong Lee (lzljs3620...@apache.org)
> 
> * Zili (Tison) Chen (ti...@apache.org)
> 
> 
> Look forward to your feedback. Thanks.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Yu
> 
> [1] https://github.com/alibaba/fluss
> 
> [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/FlussProposal
> 

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